Lmao wow
Man opens fire at a clinic.
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Excellent example except...have you seen the dipshits on the ****ing roads? Do you see the government taking their cars from them, even after several cases of drunk driving then? Stupid people are stupid, until you can wrap your head around that and realize government intervention cannot and will not prevent it, keep your mouth shut. Same goes for everything including the internet or power tools.
This “super PRO gun” LEO is probably the type that hassles the **** out of the guys that legally open carry...
You are being detained...
For what crime...?
suspicious... let me see your ID!
what’s your RAS?
We getting calls.. let me see your ID!
but no laws have been broken, sir...
YOU are under arrest for failure to ID!!!
You are being detained...
For what crime...?
suspicious... let me see your ID!
what’s your RAS?
We getting calls.. let me see your ID!
but no laws have been broken, sir...
YOU are under arrest for failure to ID!!!
Yeah it's called liberalism.
Are you seriously a LEO? If so that's scary AF. Like someone else said, the dogs will always do what their masters tell them.
First off and as a LEO you should know this, driving is a privilege not a right. Owning a gun is a right.
Second, yes you can go to a gun store and if you are not a criminal you can buy a firearm.
But how exactly are you going to determine who is a pre-criminal?
By who's standards do we determine what makes a criminal?
You obviously lack the foresight to see how those who determine, and the standards they use would be used against the 99.9% law abiding citizens. That's alarming especially considering you're a LEO.
Imagine your logic being applied to all of our God giving rights.
The 1st amendment. Your right to free speech can only be utilized if you are well vetted and regulated by "us".
The 4th amendment. Your right to illegal searches only applies if you are well vetted and regulated by "us".
You have a very piss poor understanding of rights and how they work.
As for tragedies, you as a LEO, I'm betting have pulled more dead people out of cars than you have seen killed from firearms. Now if you want to go on about tougher regulations and testing requirements to obtains a DL I'm all in.
And fyi anyone that says "I'm pro-gun, but" isn't pro-gun at all.
I agree 100%
Let anyone and everyone have a gun. Don't vet anyone. Let things work themselves out. And when someone you love dies to gun violence, you can come back to this thread and edit your post.
Have a good day.
This is one of those politician speeches that sounds nice on the surface, but when you get down to the details, there's some major issues with it.
The driver's license analogy is a bad one for what you're suggesting. You need a driver's license to operate on public roads. You can drive and operate whatever you want on your own property. If you want to concealed carry out in the public, there's already a licensing process as you suggest. And even if you were to effect this, look at how many unlicensed drivers are running around and killing/injuring people. It doesn't stop them at all.
Now let's go point by point.
1.) I've taken these so called courses. They're not going to do anything if they're mandated. It was over 40 hours of "don't look down the barrel and don't point it at people, you idiot." The test was more of the same. it didn't really do anything. All it did was take money out of my pocket and waste my time, essentially just a barrier to entry to the poor.
2.) To what end is this going to help anything? It's not even going to stop NDs.
3.) Do you want the government determining what suitable mental health is? It's purely subjective. If your political beliefs don't align with theirs, should you be classified as mentally ill and denied the right to a firearm? And the drug test, we don't even drug test for other government services.
4.) Rigorous background check...you mean like NICS which already exists and is mandated?
5.) Goodbye, fourth amendment rights. Canada has this. It also mandates that firearms and ammunition must be stored in separate safes, anchored to the structure, in separate rooms. You know, making the point of home defense completely and totally impossible.
Basically all those things make ownership more onerous and infringe upon your rights, without demonstrating any means of really being effective. But they make it look like you're doing something- the politician's specialty.
I'm surprised you didn't include red flag laws, which in theory might be more effective, but also completely throw out due process, which is kind of the core of your rights and the criminal justice system.
That’s a big ****ing negative sir!
In the end it’s a waste of time to try and argue these logic based points with totally illogical people. I feel better just calling them a dumbass and moving on.
Okay, but if that happens and you get upset at the government for your family member's murder then that would be an illogical response. Your problem should lie with the person that murdered them, not the government or anyone else, and it likely would lie there if they had committed the murder with a knife or hammer or something else unregulated, but because it is a firearm you all the sudden become illogical and blame the government and the pro-gun advocates?
if you have a felony conviction than you have pretty much lost some important rights, including the 2A. if a psyche doctor feels someone is a serious risk to society they can contact the police about it. these are already two important safeguards in place. "the right to bear arms shall not be infringed"
someone else mentioned a friend who was blocked from buying a gun because they take medication iirc.. ill be all the cash in my wallet (not much) that there are plenty of LEOs on anti-depressants and other prescription drugs that have the ability to carry 24-7. prescription meds for mental issues are prescribed by a treating physician, who has the ability to report said person to the police if they genuinely feel their patient is a credible/serious threat to themselves and/or others. if they were to blanket ban everyone because they take meds then you would have a whole lot of people not taking them for that reason. should we ban every single veteran who has ptsd? are all of them a risk to society? im sure plenty of LEOs have it too from crazy shit theyve dealt with. should they lose their ability to carry a weapon? eventually they start adding all kind of reasons to be included in the "banned" group and we end up like other countries where practically nobody can own them (unless youre rich or connected).
i was watching a documentary about buying a gun, legally, in mexico. there is ONE gun store in the entire country (per this documentary) and its on a military base. after months and mountains of paperwork you finally are permitted to go that base/store to buy a weapon. it takes hours to get in and get out. i dont recall if it was expensive, but it was a major pita. one guy who was a business owner was waiting at the store to get his gun for a few hours already. he said he could have easily walked into a back alley and purchased a handgun off someone for a few hundred bucks but he wanted to do it legally. what a great system they have there. heavily regulated and restricted. meanwhile, they have literal war in the streets with rpgs, machine guns and grenades lol.
someone else mentioned a friend who was blocked from buying a gun because they take medication iirc.. ill be all the cash in my wallet (not much) that there are plenty of LEOs on anti-depressants and other prescription drugs that have the ability to carry 24-7. prescription meds for mental issues are prescribed by a treating physician, who has the ability to report said person to the police if they genuinely feel their patient is a credible/serious threat to themselves and/or others. if they were to blanket ban everyone because they take meds then you would have a whole lot of people not taking them for that reason. should we ban every single veteran who has ptsd? are all of them a risk to society? im sure plenty of LEOs have it too from crazy shit theyve dealt with. should they lose their ability to carry a weapon? eventually they start adding all kind of reasons to be included in the "banned" group and we end up like other countries where practically nobody can own them (unless youre rich or connected).
i was watching a documentary about buying a gun, legally, in mexico. there is ONE gun store in the entire country (per this documentary) and its on a military base. after months and mountains of paperwork you finally are permitted to go that base/store to buy a weapon. it takes hours to get in and get out. i dont recall if it was expensive, but it was a major pita. one guy who was a business owner was waiting at the store to get his gun for a few hours already. he said he could have easily walked into a back alley and purchased a handgun off someone for a few hundred bucks but he wanted to do it legally. what a great system they have there. heavily regulated and restricted. meanwhile, they have literal war in the streets with rpgs, machine guns and grenades lol.
Its called no personal accountability for his future or that of his loved ones. No bulb going off in his head pointing at training himself and or equipping himself (or loved ones) with the tools / skills necessary to survive evil.... Nope... Just lay there like a mark, waiting on the government to take care of that for him... while he is perfectly content wearing his face diaper and getting anal swabs from said government!
Lmao...
Oh My God!, I didn't think about that! My family! Think of the children (makes faggoty liberal body gesture to virtue signal to the world I'm a woke cuck).
Just kidding. I'll teach my kids, family & friends to not be useless ****s tethered to their fragile emotions and use reason to react to whatever life throws at them.
But you do you, and I'll do me, ok?
"Common sense gun control" is how you lose your 2a rights.
If he didn't kill them with a gun, he would have used a knife. If he didn't use a knife, then a bat....rinse, repeat.
The problem with "selective gun control" for those "who shouldn't have them" is the fact that eventually, you are the one they decide shouldn't have them.
If he didn't kill them with a gun, he would have used a knife. If he didn't use a knife, then a bat....rinse, repeat.
The problem with "selective gun control" for those "who shouldn't have them" is the fact that eventually, you are the one they decide shouldn't have them.
or a Mustang.
A very good friend of mine who I have known over 50yrs works at that clinic and was actually on duty. Was actually shot at thru window on his way out along with another employee and 4 other people including a small child. His phone, wallet, keys etc were left in his office and it took a few days to get them back. His car was left in parking lot and FBI/Sheriff refused to allow him to get it. One bomb was set off within 20' of his office. He says tons of damage inside building.
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Damn that's crazy. A person just never knows when it's their time. Don't take any day for granted!
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Liberalism is the mental health issue. You can't indoctrinate people with the notion that the alternative liberal lifestyles are normal and that everyone on the abnormal left is a victim without having people snap.
It still baffles me that people think stricter gun laws are going to prevent people from doing bad things with guns legally or illegally. You would need to eliminate all gun production world wide and then some.
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