FORD MUSTANG GOING FULLY ELECTRIC

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doubtful, right now the number of vehicles with autonomous driving are going up and yet claim volume is staying the same or slightly dipping.

the issue from an accident perspective still comes higher from distracted drivers behind the wheel.
Just think how easy it will be to "suicide" people...
 

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Simply put, to make electric drive the only mode of propulsion is absolutely idiotic.

To offer an all-electric option is the way to do it.

Again, no one is talking about the enormous gorrilla in the room which is a National electric grid that can not handle all these electric cars that are being shoved down our throats. Our infrastructure is crumbling and overloading the system with electric only cars is a smart idea. Right.

To be fair, im not against electricity. One of my favorite cars that Lexus ever made was the GS450h hybrid. Thing was a rocket ship. I'm not opposed to advancing electrification. But to carte blanche say "We are making our most iconic vehicle electric only" is ****ing retarded.

Admittedly, Ill be that old asshole driving around his internal combustion car running on ethanol with the kids running electric cars. Simply no interest in owning a computer on wheels personally.
 

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Simply put, to make electric drive the only mode of propulsion is absolutely idiotic.

To offer an all-electric option is the way to do it.

Again, no one is talking about the enormous gorrilla in the room which is a National electric grid that can not handle all these electric cars that are being shoved down our throats. Our infrastructure is crumbling and overloading the system with electric only cars is a smart idea. Right.

To be fair, im not against electricity. One of my favorite cars that Lexus ever made was the GS450h hybrid. Thing was a rocket ship. I'm not opposed to advancing electrification. But to carte blanche say "We are making our most iconic vehicle electric only" is ****ing retarded.

Admittedly, Ill be that old asshole driving around his internal combustion car running on ethanol with the kids running electric cars. Simply no interest in owning a computer on wheels personally.
And the "kids" will want a car with 2,000 mi range/charge before they will want an 8 second daily driver. As someone said above, the cars are "scary".
 

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Whats all the hate for the electric vehicles?

Reminds me of when ford tossed out the old 5.0 and went to the 4.6

I have absolutely no objection at all to having an electric 8 second daily driver.
No one is hating. If thats what you want then go for it, I think everyone who drives those meet up on www.men-docking.com. You can share your plugging in at the mall stories and such.
 

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The next-gen version of the Mustang won’t go into production until December of 2028. And there could be a good reason for the long wait. Autoforecast Solutions reports the standard Mustang is going fully electric as well. And it sounds like that will be the only powertrain setup. It’s also important to note the next-gen Mustang will be made at Ford’s Flat Rock, Michigan plant. There hasn’t been a single other EV announced for that facility. So, it’s also going to take extra time to tool it up for electrics.

https://www.autoforecastsolutions.com/

total bullshit. might be an option but it won't be the only option. no way they do this before watching the mach E sales figures.

wanna bet on it?
 

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total bullshit. might be an option but it won't be the only option. no way they do this before watching the mach E sales figures.

wanna bet on it?
Ford is not going to invest in retooling a plant for a specific EV platform and keep another non EV platform around in the same plant in the future. That would make zero sense.

So sure, we can make that bet.
 

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Ford is not going to invest in retooling a plant for a specific EV platform and keep another non EV platform around in the same plant in the future. That would make zero sense.

So sure, we can make that bet.
Does ford have any other full EVs coming after the MachE? Surely the Mustang would not be their second run at one.
 

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Does ford have any other full EVs coming after the MachE? Surely the Mustang would not be their second run at one.
I think if the Mach E is successful, they will turn the Mustang into a sub brand like they are doing with the Bronco. It looks like Corvette will follow the same path. There are more EVs coming for sure.

I wonder what @DBK thinks
 

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I personally think it won't happen by the next gen mustang. I think it will be an option/version but won't go fully EV just yet. But as someone else said, if you want your manual V8 new off the showroom floor, you might want to get on that now.

Assuming we have petrol/e85 available, I guess you can always pick one up 2nd hand. Prices will be through the roof though, so definitely hold on to what you have if having a V8 is your thing.
 

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I think if the Mach E is successful, they will turn the Mustang into a sub brand like they are doing with the Bronco. It looks like Corvette will follow the same path. There are more EVs coming for sure.

I wonder what @DBK thinks
I guess I could see that. Mustang will become a very small niche similar to a Corvette or a wagon.

Meanwhile, Elon Musk will buy a new rotary technology and create a 1.0L, 2,000 HP car...Lol
 

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The point of the thread and the linked article was that they have already determined that there will be a market. My point is that I am not so sure. Do automakers ever make bad decisions...? Lol
If at that point a majority of vehicles are all-electric, then why would you question if there will be a market? That's like saying if Ford and Chevy (and others) cease building cars, would there really be a market for SUVs and CUVs for those who preferred sedans? Well, the public has spoken. They jumped over from sedans to CUVs and SUVs and trucks. People WILL buy what the auto makers build, because that's what will be available. IMO the same will happen with high-performance cars. Right now, a ton of muscle car owners are saying "no way will I buy all-electric". But when the time comes, and it will, that gas performance vehicles are a minority or phased out, all-electric high-performance vehicles will be easily sold to those who once said, NO-WAY. I predict the auto makers will in time design some truly extraordinary all-electric high-performance cars, with highly engineered suspensions, controls, interiors, audio, etc. 0-60 in under 3 seconds the norm (for high-performance vehicles). Everybody just take a deep breath. It's not going to be as bad as you today believe. JMO.

P.S.- If you think what I'm predicting is unlikely, have a chat with Nick. I'm sure, as a Ford dealer, he's already seeing a rosy picture unfolding for Ford vehicles. It won't happen overnight, but it will happen.
 

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What happens when someone stands in front of your autonomous car and demands you get out and give up your wallet, wife, daughter, etc?

And there is more to driving than "8 sec golf cart". There is a mechanical connection, there is sounds and smells. There is freedom to go where you want only limited by the the amount of fuel you can carry. The grid cannot, nor will it ever be able to supply the fuel needed for that.
 

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If at that point a majority of vehicles are all-electric, then why would you question if there will be a market? That's like saying if Ford and Chevy (and others) cease building cars, would there really be a market for SUVs and CUVs for those who preferred sedans? Well, the public has spoken. They jumped over from sedans to CUVs and SUVs and trucks. People WILL buy what the auto makers build, because that's what will be available. IMO the same will happen with high-performance cars. Right now, a ton of muscle car owners are saying "no way will I buy all-electric". But when the time comes, and it will, that gas performance vehicles are a minority or phased out, all-electric high-performance vehicles will be easily sold to those who once said, NO-WAY. I predict the auto makers will in time design some truly extraordinary all-electric high-performance cars, with highly engineered suspensions, controls, interiors, audio, etc. 0-60 in under 3 seconds the norm (for high-performance vehicles). Everybody just take a deep breath. It's not going to be as bad as you today believe. JMO.

P.S.- If you think what I'm predicting is unlikely, have a chat with Nick. I'm sure, as a Ford dealer, he's already seeing a rosy picture unfolding for Ford vehicles. It won't happen overnight, but it will happen.
I am not anti-electric. I have owned one and my next car will most likely be one (may even look at the MachE depending on price vs. Tesla). My point is that I am not sure there will be much differentiation between a high performance car and a grocery getter. There really isn't much now given that you can pretty easily get an electric 11 sec street car. My point is that I am not sure many will want to buy an 10.2 sec electric Mustang vs. say a 10.4 sec crossover SUV. I do believe a small niche will and heck I may as a toy, but I see most going with utility over a few tenths on a track or that they will never use. I just see that there will be much less Mustangs on the road than what you see now, but maybe that is coming regardless given the demographic desires.
 

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  1. Millenials are in their thirties already. I know a TON of car guys in my age group. Tons of mustang and corvette guys. Go on youtube. The car hobby is alive and well. I don't think there will be much of an issue finding a market for a gas sports car in 10 years
  2. Give an all electric or hybrid sports sedan/suv all day any day for hauling the kids around. I love my old toyota 1UZ but good lord, 15mpg gets old.
  3. Ford would knowingly alienate buyers by going all electric, sans petrol option.
  4. This would likely kill off the performance market for drivetrain bits
Going to be a weird world when we are all scrambling to find old crown vic motors and coveting 200k mile coyotes out of work trucks with chain slap.
 

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A lot of speculation and misinformation here. Millennials do not hate cars as some are saying. They are just behind boomers as the largest purchaser of performance vehicles and their preferred vehicles are classic muscle cars and late 80s early 90s sports cars. The 1st gen Mustang tops the list as most desired among Millennials.
 

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A lot of speculation and misinformation here. Millennials do not hate cars as some are saying. They are just behind boomers as the largest purchaser of performance vehicles and their preferred vehicles are classic muscle cars and late 80s early 90s sports cars. The 1st gen Mustang tops the list as most desired among Millennials.
Good to know. I am not sure about the younger ones though. My 11 year old thinks a Tesla is cool as hell. I told him, yeah, not really cool, but the technology is pretty neat. He is into Forza now though so I think his mind is getting straight. Lmao
 

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Good to know. I am not sure about the younger ones though. My 11 year old thinks a Tesla is cool as hell. I told him, yeah, not really cool, but the technology is pretty neat. He is into Forza now though so I think his mind is getting straight. Lmao

At that age it takes some time to really learn and understand all the elements of the automotive world. I started getting into cars when I was 8 or 9 and that's all I wanted to read about and was basically a walking automotive dictionary, but at that age I still thought it was super cool to have one of those Blaupunkt stereos that you could match the color of the bezel to the color of your car. I was into some of the dumbest shit because that was when the import scene was taking off with all the terrible and cheap do-it-yourself trends and I got sucked into it for a while. Eventually he'll grow out of that once he can drive and then realizes horsepower is more fun.
 

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total bullshit. might be an option but it won't be the only option. no way they do this before watching the mach E sales figures.

wanna bet on it?
With thr EU, Japan, California, New York, New Jersey and Massachusetts pushing it... And Beijing Biden in office...


They may not have a choice by 2035. Let's not kid ourselves, Ford and GM are on board with this as I'm sure it presents an excellent revenue opportunity.
 

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By 2035 all new cars in Cali must be electric. Most/all states will follow Cali (biggest market for auto makers in US).
So this will happen, I have no doubt.
 

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Toyota's CEO stated he is still skeptical of the electric movement even though they offer almost a full line up of electric or hybrid vehicles. That to me says we should still remain skeptical too at least.
 

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