I like the science behind this. Its interesting.
Life After Death?
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"Time" is a human construct for purposes of this argument. When a body expires does it's "soul" follow this human construct? Who knows? I'm betting "time" in the afterlife is not the same as we perceive it.
Can’t really measure eternity.
A while back I was watching a show that was talking about a number of doctors from around the world who teamed up to study near death experiences and out of body experiences from their patients. What they found was pretty astonishing as one of the examples I remember was from the doctor they were interviewing talking about a patient who had died on the table and was brought back, and once they came to they talked about how their spirit separated from their body and they rose up through the ceiling and out of the hospital where they could see the roof and this particular patient mentioned that there was a pair of red shoes or something like that on the roof of the hospital that they saw and when checked it turned out it was in fact true. The items were there and from the study they put together there were a lot of examples just like this. Iirc the majority of the patients who relayed these types of stories had initially died of cardiac arrest.
Edit: just started watching the video after posting this and that is the same doctor I saw in the other program I watched. That's the study I'm referring to.
Edit: just started watching the video after posting this and that is the same doctor I saw in the other program I watched. That's the study I'm referring to.
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Sure don't know........but we're all sure to find out..
If death is simply ceasing to exist, nothingness, complete unconsciousness...forever, would you really "find out" when that started?
No, you wouldn't.
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The interviewer saying that we don't have consciousness before birth is a bold assertion. Given what we know and don't know about consciousness and soul, do we *know*? No, we don't, any more than we know about consciousness after death.
Time is a measurement between relativistic events in space.
Life is a collection of atoms resisting entropy through replication, as long as possible.
Life is a collection of atoms resisting entropy through replication, as long as possible.
I've said it before. I know, for 100% fact, there is an afterlife. I've seen proof.
As time goes on, I think they (the deceased) may be in a different dimension. I do not have any idea "why" some deceased have the ability to show us signs, and most do not, or choose not to.
Is it that the deceased feel so strongly about something that they can show us a sign, or is it that they're given a certain number of opportunities so they use them up right away?
As time goes on, I think they (the deceased) may be in a different dimension. I do not have any idea "why" some deceased have the ability to show us signs, and most do not, or choose not to.
Is it that the deceased feel so strongly about something that they can show us a sign, or is it that they're given a certain number of opportunities so they use them up right away?
Watch “A Ghost Story”....different way if looking at things from a ghost’s point of view. Great movie.
I think that it's really hard for mankind to accept that death is the end of consciousness. It's frightening to have to accept that one day, you just won't be here, that everything you know and love will cease to exist, everything you've ever accomplished means nothing, and nothing lasts forever. That's just too much for people.
That's why there's invisible men in the sky who make you feel bad for masturbating. Creating someone other than yourself to be responsible to relieves a lot of pressure and gives guidance to those with low self control. belief in religion brings order to disorder, and that's not really a bad thing.
Make the most with the time that you have. You don't get anymore.
That's why there's invisible men in the sky who make you feel bad for masturbating. Creating someone other than yourself to be responsible to relieves a lot of pressure and gives guidance to those with low self control. belief in religion brings order to disorder, and that's not really a bad thing.
Make the most with the time that you have. You don't get anymore.
I don't dwell on things like this. People have been dying for thousands of years before I even existed and no one has "come" back and given solid proof of anything. I don't trust people in general so, people saying they seen red shoes on the roof, could just be some set up.
People talk about heaven and hell and God and the devil. I haven't seen or experienced any of it. I'm not saying it does or doesn't exist. Everyone has their own beliefs and I respect that.
My wife and I talk about this some times. We are both previously divorced. So, I ask my wife after she dies who will she spend eternity with (Me or her Ex). Her reply is first come, first served ROFLMAO!!!!
People talk about heaven and hell and God and the devil. I haven't seen or experienced any of it. I'm not saying it does or doesn't exist. Everyone has their own beliefs and I respect that.
My wife and I talk about this some times. We are both previously divorced. So, I ask my wife after she dies who will she spend eternity with (Me or her Ex). Her reply is first come, first served ROFLMAO!!!!
I thought it was 72 virgins lol oh maybe thats Islam or something idn all I do know is...... Life is terminal from day one...... and no one gets out Alive!
I tend to agree in the end, but how I get there and my position is based on my version of logic and interpretation which I realize is subject to my life experiences.
As sad and depressing as it sounds, all the scientific studies in the history of scientific studies (or religions for that matter) cannot say without a doubt anything pro or con in regards to afterlife. Building on this, we as humans have developed these studies using means we've also constructed. More simply, any so-called conclusion(s) we come to are immediately tainted by our very own human experiences. Our forms of observation, our measurements, our instrumentation, our concept of time...etc. Additionally, our brains subconsciously translate our environment using past experiences to shortcut into a reality that is more easily perceivable to us. Simple example: You're reading this, but the fact is that your eyes are essentially skimming the words while your brain is picking up key letters and - using your past experience/knowledge - deducing the full words. That's why you/we probably have to backtrack or slow down when we use words or punctuation that's not as commonly utilized; your brain couldn't find a past reference quickly enough to continue skimming thusly you "hiccup." We have a basic desire - call it curiosity or belonging - to know where we came from and where we will end up. The truth is that we may not be nearly as brilliant or important as we like to think, but it gives most of us the warm and fuzzy to believe that we are part of something bigger. Personally, at this stage in my life (35), I'm perfectly comfortable being open-minded in regards to existence in general and the likelihood that my trusty brain is doing its best to paint a wonderful reality for me. I'm sure my perspective will evolve as I near the end, but I believe it's healthy to question and consider these type of subjects at least for the time being.
Quick, easy read that expounds on parts of this in a story format:
Scott Adams, God's Debris
No, it's not a religious book, but it'll certainly get your wheels turning. My two cents is to read a chapter (they're short) and give it some honest, open thought before moving on to the next.
The occasional fear I get when my brain goes off beat isn't from a fear of losing the things I’ve done or accomplished. I get uneasy when I contemplate an eternity of non-existence of myself.
Sure, there was an indefinite period of time before I existed and I don’t think about that time (nor am I concerned) about how that time passed, but if I die and any sort of after-life fails to exist, then I can’t even begin to wrap my head around not even being.
I don’t know if you guys ever try to think about eternity, and then you get a quick dizziness just thinking about it... but I do. And when that feeing is combined with ‘being nothing’, I get half sick.
Sounds weird, and I rarely spend time thinking about it, but when I do it gets all goofy.
(FWIW, I believe in God and an after-life in whatever capacity it’ll be. But, if there isn’t one, then I guess I’m just along for th ride with everyone else.)
When I was younger, I had a large number of precognitive dreams. This lasted until I was about 30 years old. Some of the dreams were incredibly vivid, and one in particular actually ended up saving at least one life because I was able to warn the appropriate people. So what does this make me believe?? It makes me believe I know nothing, but am open to just about anything.
I can say with absolute certainty that there is a supernatural element that exists that we do not understand yet. I feel like I personally understand it as I have had dozens and dozens of encounters since the age of 19 that include encounters, visions, and dreams and a couple of these encounters have been witnessed by other people so I have personal evidence that confirms my beliefs and that I am not hallucinating or making anything up. Don't expect anyone to believe based off what I'm saying but it is why I am confident in what I believe and why I am a Christian. The thought of dying does not bother me so thinking about dying and turning to nothing doesn't sound terrible, but from my experiences I just don't think that is the case because I know without a doubt that there are beings that exist beyond us in dimensions that are intertwined with ours.
God the Father, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit are real, Satan is real, angels are real, demonic spirits are real and can roam this Earth, and the afterlife is real and there are only two options as to where you can go. The Holy Bible is the Word of God and is our instruction manual on living an eternal life with our Creator when we die or are taken up into Heaven in the rapture.
God the Father, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit are real, Satan is real, angels are real, demonic spirits are real and can roam this Earth, and the afterlife is real and there are only two options as to where you can go. The Holy Bible is the Word of God and is our instruction manual on living an eternal life with our Creator when we die or are taken up into Heaven in the rapture.
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