Pro charger or not??

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Hello folks I have just started seriously looking into a Procharger for my 2001 cobra. I have been hesitant to get one have been trying to stay all motor but there is no way I’m gonna pass the 400 rwhp mark unless I spend a ton of money n/a. I currently have 310 to the wheels and I’m just not sure on the reliability end of a Procharger being my internals are cast and not forged I hate to spend 7k to blow up my motor. Any experience boosting stock 01 cobra or any stock cast internal new edge mustang motor?? Any feed back on this would be greatly appreciated.
 

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Keep the tune conservative and don't beat the crap out of the car. My 01 had a Procharger on it when it was my daily.
 

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^^^ this

Its all in the tune, good supporting mods and good gas. Obviously don’t skip on maintenance either.

I ran a Vortech Si at 9lbs for 20k miles before i sold it. Made 447/407. It ran amazing, had a shit ton of fun with it and beat quite a few cars I probably shouldn’t have.

One suggestion i would make is to do a compression test and leak down test prior to make sure the motor is healthy if it has some mileage on it.




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^^^ this

Its all in the tune, good supporting mods and good gas. Obviously don’t skip on maintenance either.

I ran a Vortech Si at 9lbs for 20k miles before i sold it. Made 447/407. It ran amazing, had a shit ton of fun with it and beat quite a few cars I probably shouldn’t have.

One suggestion i would make is to do a compression test and leak down test prior to make sure the motor is healthy if it has some mileage on it.




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Cool I have an awesome tuner Tim Rodaheaver and my motor had 42500 miles on it hopefully it is good to go. It feels strong anyway.
 

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Just a couple of suggestions... On supporting mods, I wouldn't do without the MMR top Head cooling mod (back in the day when I did mine the LDC cooling mod was the only game in town) and the Procharger 3 core intercooler for good peace of mind. Also, it's not a bad idea to set your shift point (shift light is a must-have mod too) lower than the normal 7200 redline.... like 6400-6600 just for good insurance. I have my shift light set at 6400 as by the time I actually shift it's more like 6800 rpms. The higher boost levels at the higher RPMs can kill stock internals.
 

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Just a couple of suggestions... On supporting mods, I wouldn't do without the MMR top Head cooling mod (back in the day when I did mine the LDC cooling mod was the only game in town) and the Procharger 3 core intercooler for good peace of mind. Also, it's not a bad idea to set your shift point (shift light is a must-have mod too) lower than the normal 7200 redline.... like 6400-6600 just for good insurance. I have my shift light set at 6400 as by the time I actually shift it's more like 6800 rpms. The higher boost levels at the higher RPMs can kill stock internals.
Ok cool thanks for the advice I don’t plan on more than 8 psi. Was maybe even considering staying at 6 psi. Due to having full exhaust from longtubes out jlt intake bigger throttle body intake spacer and erg delete I should be able to pick up decent power with those supporting mods.
 

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Ok cool thanks for the advice I don’t plan on more than 8 psi. Was maybe even considering staying at 6 psi. Due to having full exhaust from longtubes out jlt intake bigger throttle body intake spacer and erg delete I should be able to pick up decent power with those supporting mods.

6psi would be tough unless you just shift low. a 4" pulley put my mach at just a hair under 10psi spinning to redline. A 4" pulley you might have to clearance the passenger side valve cover, any bigger you definitely will. Id say run a 4" pulley and just have the tuner pull some timing up top to keep it in the 450-475 range and don't beat the hell out of it
 

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I hear you I’m not the beat my car type. Every once in a while ill pull 1st to 3rd just to feel the seat dyno but other than that I’ve only done two legit burnouts and maybe seen 6200 rpms maybe 5 times in two years. It will be nice to know the power is there if ever needed and for the occasional fun pulls.
 

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Going the same way with a Procharger and long tubes.

Told the tuner I want around 400 but keep seeing higher numbers. No dragging the car, just a fun weekend toy so I am thinking a higher number may not be as big a deal for a goal. Opinions? Where were people with a stock motor for HP and good longevity?
 

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Going the same way with a Procharger and long tubes.

Told the tuner I want around 400 but keep seeing higher numbers. No dragging the car, just a fun weekend toy so I am thinking a higher number may not be as big a deal for a goal. Opinions? Where were people with a stock motor for HP and good longevity?
I don't think I've ever seen a 4V "only" make 400. Even with a P1. They like boost too much.

My opinion on things is you're not always at WOT. So you're not always stressing the parts. Granted all it takes is one part deciding its had enough to ruin your day. My usual advise is to keep things conservative, but start saving money just in case.

Oh, and yes, you'll need to clearance the valve cover to run a 4" pulley on single bolt timing cover. It hurt really bad when I had to do that to my powder coated covers.
 
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Going the same way with a Procharger and long tubes.

Told the tuner I want around 400 but keep seeing higher numbers. No dragging the car, just a fun weekend toy so I am thinking a higher number may not be as big a deal for a goal. Opinions? Where were people with a stock motor for HP and good longevity?
The thing about the Procharger being centrifugal the car won’t always be in boost. Just when you get into the throttle heavy and at wot.
 

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My bad I thought the roots style Eaton’s whipples etc.. gave boost no matter what just from what I’ve researched.
They still have bypass valves. Not having one would make things hard on the blower. Plus the increase in inlet temps. PD blowers just come on faster. Granted once you pulley a centri correctly it comes on pretty quick too.
 

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Going the same way with a Procharger and long tubes.

Told the tuner I want around 400 but keep seeing higher numbers. No dragging the car, just a fun weekend toy so I am thinking a higher number may not be as big a deal for a goal. Opinions? Where were people with a stock motor for HP and good longevity?

425-475 are pretty common for these cars with a centri. I made 447/407 for 20k miles before I sold it. (Vortech Si at 9 psi)

You need good supporting mods, gas and a GOOD tune. I can honestly say it ran better and better as time went on. I didn't beat the hell out of it but definitely had fun at cruise nights, roll raced, tracked some. It was not my DD.

Its my opinion these cars pop because of the tune and/or the owner beating the shit out of the car. There is a sticky at the top that talks about supercharging these. It's a good starting point
 

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Well guys as some of you may already know next week I’m ordering a D1-SC 3 core intercooled procharger. I’m pretty pumped to say the least. I think I may buy a teksid block and start buying the parts I need to build a forged bottom end and hopefully by next winter I can have it together and swap it in. I’m ready to go next level and make some serious power. This car is gonna be bad ass considering I have done just about every mod imaginable to this car. It’s really cool to be able to piece together my dream car a little at a time and to think it all started with a 35k mile 11 k 2001 cobra. Terminator what terminator who!! Lol
 

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