Help me educate some members what a GOLDEN TICKET GT500 is

What option(s) must a 2020 Gt500 have to be a GOLDEN TICKET car?

  • Carbon fiber track package & any stripes

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tomshep

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Am I getting this right?? With a golden ticket allocation there are these possibilities:
1 CFTP
1a.with stripes
1aa. Painted stripes
1ab. Vinyl stripes
1b.without stripes
2 non CFTP
2a.with stripes
2aa.painted stripes
2ab.vinyl stripes
2b.without stripes

You could order options 2ab and 2b without a golden ticket allocation? (So could be considered a "waste of golden ticket")

So if you can not order 1aa, 1ab, 1b, or 2aa without a golden ticket allocation, why would they not be considered a golden ticket car?

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2ab and 2b are base models and not Golden Ticket.

Think of it this way. IF you have CFTP and/or Painted Stripes it required a Golden Ticket allocation.

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From the sail thread

Can you order a stripe car without CFTP?

Can you order a CFTP without stripes (sans "golden ticket")?

The only way to order CFTP AND stripes is with a golden ticket?

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Answers in order:

Yes, painted stipes without CFTP requires a golden ticket allocation.

Yes, CFTP can be stripe delete and requires a golden ticket allocation.

Yes, the only way to order CFTP and painted stripes is with a golden ticket allocation. NOTE, you could also order these options individually if desired and it required a golden ticket allocation.

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In my view, it's just a shitty way of ensuring that large scale, high volume dealers, get a big cookie. Smaller dealers get screwed. Every dealer that participates in the program should get at least one CFTP car.

It'll be interesting to see what game gets played with the CFHP optioned cars for '21. Hopefully, they can be ordered by any participating dealer. I suspect that due to the wheels, even with the death of the GT350R, that Ford will still (in essence) guarantee stupid high ADM's by limiting their volume as is done with CFTP cars.
 

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In my view, it's just a shitty way of ensuring that large scale, high volume dealers, get a big cookie. Smaller dealers get screwed. Every dealer that participates in the program should get at least one CFTP car.

It'll be interesting to see what game gets played with the CFHP optioned cars for '21. Hopefully, they can be ordered by any participating dealer. I suspect that due to the wheels, even with the death of the GT350R, that Ford will still (in essence) guarantee stupid high ADM's by limiting their volume as is done with CFTP cars.
Were you aware that the CFTP didnt require the golden ticket? Sure got me...
 

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My beef is with the design of the program. It isn't being scaled and that, to me, erases any attempt to make it appear fair. A small dealer with proportionate sales numbers that checks all the requisite boxes should be awarded the same allocation as a much larger dealer.
 

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I was just curious if you were aware of this golden ticket info that is news to a lot of us regarding the ability to get a CFTP sans GT..
 

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I was just curious if you were aware of this golden ticket info that is news to a lot of us regarding the ability to get a CFTP sans GT..

How are you able to order a CFTP car with out the special allocation (Golden Ticket)?
 
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Dealer isn't getting a CFTP car without it.

That was definitely my original understanding as well, however I know of three examples that were able to get CFTP without golden tickets, and they were NOT able to get painted stripes.
 

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No way did Nick make that statement.
I can guarantee you that if Nick could order CFTP cars without a special allocation, he and a lot of members here would be very happy campers.

Earl,

Strangely enough, it's true. But, it doesn't mean that the CFTP wasn't a controlled option. For instance, you don't need a special allocation to order a Raptor or a Tremor...but you can't order an unlimited amount of each whenever you'd like.

I know of three dealers that received CFTP cars that DID NOT qualify for a Golden Ticket, not even close. I purchased one of them last week and flipped it. The two others sold retail.

A Golden Ticket allocation is a car that was ordered with BOTH CFTP and Painted OTT stripes, period.

With that Golden ticket allocation, you could order a base, a CFTP, a base with Painted OTT stripes, or a CFTP with Painted OTT stripes. The latter, would be the only thing I would consider a Golden Ticket car, as it took full advantage of the Golden Ticket allocation.

I do NOT believe, nor have I seen any examples or heard of any, that a dealer WITHOUT the Golden Ticket allocation can order a base car with painted stripes. With that information in mind, the painted stripes were even more of a limiting factor than the CFTP option, which makes sense.

The screenshot you posted on the first page, was sent to every dealer that enrolled in the program last spring. It very clearly states that a "Golden Ticket" is defined as a car with both CFTP AND painted OTT stripes.
 
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I know of at least one members base car with painted stripes that was able to get sent to the plant for production without Golden Ticket when it was originally ordered. His dealer ordered the car without the GT and was initially turned down by the Rep, the only reason it finally happened was because of a pushy dealer and a aggressive Rep. The Rep was either able to acquire a GT or an exemption and the car was built and delivered.

So I believe that any CFTP with or without painted stripes or base car with painted stripes that was ordered and supposedly built without a GT, was issued a GT or exemption after the car was ordered.
 

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Earl,
The screenshot you posted on the first page, was sent to every dealer that enrolled in the program last spring. It very clearly states that a "Golden Ticket" is defined as a car with both CFTP AND painted OTT stripes.

It is extremely ambiguous. I read it as being defined that either, individually or together are considered a "Golden Ticket" (Jesus H, this is utterly retarded) because of the preceding phrase that says as both, meaning that there are multiple ways and not that both must be present in order for it to be called as such.

"A golden ticket is defined as both Carbon Fiber Track Package and Painted Over-The-Top racing stripes. The dealer is not obligated to take both features."

I see it as being backed up with the second sentence, basically saying it could be with or without POTT stripes and would still be Golden Ticket.

I'm now even more irritated with the whole ****wadian program. Dealer registers for the program, they get 1 CFTP allocation and/or 1 Base allocation. Done, over. It should be that simple.
 

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My car is a golden ticket car. It is a CFTP without the painted stripes. I sat in the phone with the dealer and the Ford rep when the allocation came up. The only way the dealer could get a CFTP car was with the golden ticket. It could have painted stripes as well or one without the other. But the rep made it very clear that this was the only way to get my chief preference...the CFTP. The dealer has not been given another golden ticket and as such their last allocation was a base model. Golden ticket according to the Ford rep was either CFTP, painted stripes, or both. If you’re saying anything different about the golden ticket cars you’re simply incorrect.
 

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My car is a golden ticket car. It is a CFTP without the painted stripes. I sat in the phone with the dealer and the Ford rep when the allocation came up. The only way the dealer could get a CFTP car was with the golden ticket. It could have painted stripes as well or one without the other. But the rep made it very clear that this was the only way to get my chief preference...the CFTP. The dealer has not been given another golden ticket and as such their last allocation was a base model. Golden ticket according to the Ford rep was either CFTP, painted stripes, or both. If you’re saying anything different about the golden ticket cars you’re simply incorrect.
At the beginning of the program, I would agree with you.

Now, knowing of three dealers receiving CFTP cars WITHOUT having a Golden Ticmet allocation, I would strongly disagree.

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Earl,

The screenshot you posted on the first page, was sent to every dealer that enrolled in the program last spring. It very clearly states that a "Golden Ticket" is defined as a car with both CFTP AND painted OTT stripes.

But the last line in that screenshot also clarifies the line before it.
"The dealer is not obligated to take both features."

This means the dealer can order a base car with the following options, Carbon Fiber Track Package, Painted Stripes or a combination of both.

Everyone seems to forget that the Carbon Fiber Track Package and Painted Stripes are options that can be added to the base car with the appropriate allocation.
 

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But the last line in that screenshot also clarifies the line before it.
"The dealer is not obligated to take both features."

This means the dealer can order a base car with the following options, Carbon Fiber Track Package, Painted Stripes or a combination of both.

Everyone seems to forget that the Carbon Fiber Track Package and Painted Stripes are options that can be added to the base car with the appropriate allocation.

Read it like this instead. In order to place a clean order with this allocation, the dealer is not obligated to take both features and is allowed to use this allocation as they choose."

So if a dealer gets 4 allocations, with the 4th being Golden Ticket. If the dealer orders and sells 4 base orders with 0 options, is the 4th base order a Golden Ticket?

The answer is no. It had the potential to be one, but was chosen not to be.
 

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At the beginning of the program, I would agree with you.

Now, knowing of three dealers receiving CFTP cars WITHOUT having a Golden Ticket allocation, I would strongly disagree.

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Nick,
Is it possible that they received Golden Tickets through their Rep or some type of secret lottery?

Initially there were only going to be 1375 Golden Ticket cars built, that was until Covid, then they decided to extend the MY and finally ended up producing:
242 - GT500 Base models with Painted Stripes.
812 - CFTP with Painted Stripes.
530 - CFTP without Painted Stripes.
1,584 - Total Golden Tickets
 

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So if a dealer gets 4 allocations, with the 4th being Golden Ticket. If the dealer orders and sells 4 base orders with 0 options, is the 4th base order a Golden Ticket?

The answer is no. It had the potential to be one, but was chosen not to be.

That could be a possibility, but how many dealers would use a Golden Ticket to order a Base car? Or, did the dealer take the more plausible route of selling the Golden Ticket to another dealer for a large sum of money? Or, swap the Golden Ticket for a standard GT500 allocation plus money?

Most dealers aren't known for their lack of greed.
 

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