That's interesting. They make a hellova good roll-race car tho. Got weight and aero on its side.
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Centrifugal S/C or Turbos
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They may “feel” slower as you don’t make peak torque at 2k rpms but they sure make up for it on the big end.
Ive had every type. My centri 2014 Mustang GT made about 650whp but felt like a ****ing dog and i was always chasing belt slip.
My TVS GT500 felt like it had 1000whp because of the tq hit, but was actually making 643 to the tire. Not a lot of downside with a properly sorted PD blower set up other than tunability.
My personal favorite is turbos by faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaar. The tunability is amazing, the sounds they make are the best, and they take less HP to drive which means they are easier on the motor at xxxx horsepower than any blower set up.
My TVS GT500 felt like it had 1000whp because of the tq hit, but was actually making 643 to the tire. Not a lot of downside with a properly sorted PD blower set up other than tunability.
My personal favorite is turbos by faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaar. The tunability is amazing, the sounds they make are the best, and they take less HP to drive which means they are easier on the motor at xxxx horsepower than any blower set up.
I loved the blower wine of the ported Eaton on my lightning, but the turbo is like strapping a JATO rocket to the side of your car... it just keeps pulling.
You get stock drivability, then press a few buttons on the boost controller, magical noises start filling the air as you get past 3.5-4k rpm. It soon sounds more like a Lear 45, getting ready for a short takeoff.
My cousin has a 98 Viper GTS with no cats (practically strait piped) and he easily hears my turbo from several bus lengths behind him over his car when we go cruise even when just running a few lbs of boost.
You get stock drivability, then press a few buttons on the boost controller, magical noises start filling the air as you get past 3.5-4k rpm. It soon sounds more like a Lear 45, getting ready for a short takeoff.
My cousin has a 98 Viper GTS with no cats (practically strait piped) and he easily hears my turbo from several bus lengths behind him over his car when we go cruise even when just running a few lbs of boost.
This is all truth.
A PD blower makes for the most fun street car. As said here, you just tap the throttle and get thrown back. No question about it. But for racing being able to spin the tires through 3rd doesn't help you much. Things like boost by gear/time/speed are amazing with a turbo. You can just tune so much of it so easily to make it down the road.
I always felt like the blower was more like a rocket being lit, but the turbo was more like a boat getting up on the bow.
What's the exhaust/intake setup you have? I remember getting that treatment from a turbo Cobra way back when I was still a NA 2V. Now I seldom ever hear any turbo noise with mine, maybe a little blowoff noise. But my anemic little 2.3T sounds like a jet tractor even at idle.
I always felt like the blower was more like a rocket being lit, but the turbo was more like a boat getting up on the bow.
What's the exhaust/intake setup you have? I remember getting that treatment from a turbo Cobra way back when I was still a NA 2V. Now I seldom ever hear any turbo noise with mine, maybe a little blowoff noise. But my anemic little 2.3T sounds like a jet tractor even at idle.
Turbo for Mexico runs and PD or centri for occasional track usage.
Mine isn't too special, I want a well rounded Grand touring car as I'm a corner carver at heart. I kept the stock intake as it makes more torque and sooner that if I did a BOSS or CJ. Peak HP is less, but it's more fun on the street. It's still big enough it still has room to grow but works well enough to keep me from falling down the rabbit hole of chasing bigger numbers and going with a fully built engine. I just and bought all the supporting mods required, i.e. fuel system, OPG, crank sprocket etc. It's a Borg Warner, want to say 76mm cold side and >80+mm hot side (I'll have to ask Dustin, he custom orders them). Then after the CPR kit it all meets up with some custom plumbing to my Bassani catback/x pipe.
It spools much quicker than the coyotes with twin turbos I've played with, and until I get past 3.5k you don't hear a peep from it. If I drive it normally (and especially when I have my stock wheels with all seasons on like now, as she's being daily driven after my Escape was totaled . The only tell that there is forced induction is the big intercooler. The exhaust is louder than stock but quieter than most of the other coyotes running around. She doesn't like too much boost with 91 (best we can get) and I usually just run it off the wastegate on gas, but she does really well on E85. Thankfully I've got an ethanol plant 7 miles from my house, with E85 and E98 on tap at several local pumps. When she just was a toy she was always running ethanol, but traveling around where E85 can't be found and with it getting colder out it's easier just running on premium gas.
"Fat Albert" using JATO to takeoff is how a big turbo feels IMO, when a NA car would fall on it's face, you just keep pulling.
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This right here.
Might be the exhaust and catback, or however you have the low pressure intake piping.
Mine is just a 3" downpipe to an O/R X, stock ish catback with rotted out flowmasters. No air to air intercooler to speak of. Intake piping is less than 3" long on either side with cone filters in the fenders. My intake manifold has a pulley and some rotors in it... Which also means that it picks up really early. For having twin 66s on a stick car there's no lag.
Mostly just sounds like an NA car. Not near as loud as it was with the blower only and longtubes. Might get some turbo noise when I go 3" all the way back with straight through mufflers. Though it sounded like dog shit when it blew one of the downpipes off.
Here it is on only 15psi, 93 pump gas, lazy shifting at 5000. Picks up a whole lot faster and louder on 25psi with E85 now.
Your turbos are much quieter than mine. I don't have any videos besides when I tested my 360* camera just running off the wastegate ~2lbs.
I didn't do any real pulls or anything too abrupt as I was afraid my camera was going to go flying off the car or into my spoiler (gear 360 is not a gopro, long and bulky Samsung Gear 360 (2017)) but it gives you an idea of the noise. I was more interested in the camera quality than my car when I filmed this. It works well on a cellphone as you can move the phone and look around.
I didn't do any real pulls or anything too abrupt as I was afraid my camera was going to go flying off the car or into my spoiler (gear 360 is not a gopro, long and bulky Samsung Gear 360 (2017)) but it gives you an idea of the noise. I was more interested in the camera quality than my car when I filmed this. It works well on a cellphone as you can move the phone and look around.
Wow that thing is crazy loud for 2psi! I was going to say maybe it didn't help that mine are running at relatively low boost (~8psi or so, the blower making the rest). Mine are Turbonetics T4s.
Gotta throw the whole kitchen sink at it. Race fuel, boost, spray, water/methanol...
A little extra nitrous shot is nice because it can help you spool/launch and provide a quick scramble function, but with boost as your main power adder you can control power more precisely, and be less likely to blow things up.
Nitrous makes a great dedicated race car, but there's a much steeper learning curve and it's a consumable.
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Coming from someone who has a very fast centrifugal car I would go turbo. The tune-ability advantages alone are worth it 10 fold.
Running a T-trim at 21psi on my cobra and while it performs I want to go turbo for the flexibility and less stress on the motor. I'm sure I can make the same power I make now and make more torque while lowering boost pressure with a turbo setup.
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You 100% can. Same boost level, you'll make more power on a turbo because you're not losing power turning a blower.. This is why I want to go turbo too. 25psi out of the ysi is robbing probably close to 80-100hp.
Thats interesting. I dont know one person who has ever sprayed a Turbo Coyote with N20. Sounds kool tho. Are they using dry or wet kits?
And how much they spraying? Is it just for Turbo spool? Cause I considered that myself as I dont have ant-lag like the all the ricers have with their stand alones.
And how much they spraying? Is it just for Turbo spool? Cause I considered that myself as I dont have ant-lag like the all the ricers have with their stand alones.
Unsure of the size... more LS cars.. seems every ZO6 with a LT4 or a procharger conversion has some BIG solenoids and 2 tanks in the back.
I'm gonna put a small dry 50shot on my TI trim over the winter... i was told go straight to 100 though... I'm at about 22lbs of boost on a 331 with it.
I'm gonna put a small dry 50shot on my TI trim over the winter... i was told go straight to 100 though... I'm at about 22lbs of boost on a 331 with it.
I'm still getting my centrifugal setup on my car sorted out but its an absolute blast. 4.10s, pullied for max rpm and a wastegate/boost controller. The car is a bit obnoxious but its not a dd and it has yet to get old. Gets stares everywhere I go, some might be more concerned than intrigued however.
Dude, car sounds WICKED!
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