Anyone have experience with Colorado Duramax?

kevinatfms

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I have a 2017 Colorado Z71 with the Duramax. So far its been ok. I love the truck, it drives exceptionally well(minus the OE shocks) but there are glaring issues with the diesel drivetrain that Chevy keeps having issues with. Tuning it would be ideal but trying to find deletes is near impossible now with the EPA fines. I dont mind the emissions though since it seems less intrusive compared to the full size models.

Throttle lag is ATROCIOUSLY bad. I mean, get on the highway and pray to god the truck responds bad. I mean, take a left turn over an intersection and hope you hit the gas early enough to clear the intersection before getting T-boned bad. I put a pedal commander in it and tried a few settings. Truck acts funky on anything but City -3 or City -4. It acts like someone is pushing the pedal down when youre even sitting in the driveway. So on City -3 is the place that feels the best and it removed all of the throttle lag with none of the other side effects. Simple install but hefty price for a glorified tuning device($399). I got mine used for half price and it was still a chunk of change for something that gives no extra power or trans tuning. With the City -3 setting is how Chevy should have programmed the throttle on this truck.

I had DEF issues for a while early on. Replaced the sensor more than once along with several reprograms due to TSB's and one recall on the regen cycle. It still does not tell me when it regens or when im low on DEF fluid. The dash does have the option of looking at the DEF fluid level though so i just check it every once in a while to make sure im not running it dry. The truck will not go into limp mode though. Even with the DEF not working it will set a CEL but run perfectly fine. Compared to full size trucks that throw you into limp mode this was quite surprising and a breath of fresh air.

I have also had issues during the colder months that Chevy still cant fix. This is my biggest pet peeve with this truck to date and the one reason why i keep contemplating trading it in on a Ranger FX4. At any temp below 45F during a cold start the truck will have idle surge. This has happened since 10k miles up to today's mileage of 40,195. It did it this morning and its right at 45F. The truck will start, both by key and by remote start, and once it settles to 850rpm it will start to surge between 850-1000. Chevrolet tried reprogramming it 3-4 times without any fix. They replaced the fuel filter housing at 10k when they found a crack in one of the filter bowls. No fix. They tried to drain the fuel tank and get fresh diesel in it, still didnt fix it. I have added every anti-gel under the sun to see if the fuel was freezing in the line but that didnt do anything to help. The odd issue is that it only happens when cold. Once the truck warms up it runs/idles perfectly fine. So my plan for now is to use the remote start to warm it up and then get in and go.

Transmission is a 6 speed unit - 6L50 - which is an oddball. It feels like it was tuned for a gas engine and has such a terrible shift schedule you feel like it has either too much line pressure or too little line pressure. GM flushed the fluid to the updated TSB fluid at 30k miles and it has gotten better but still isnt 100% clear yet. The shift knob in the truck is a pile of hot garbage and your knee will hit it. I swapped a Camaro knob into the truck for $68 and a small amount of wiring(two wires and some heat shrink). A tune supposedly will change the shift schedule and pressures to where they need to be but i dont want to tune this until im over the 8/80k emissions hump.

Suspension up front made noise, ended up being the sway bar end links. GM replaced them with an updated part. The front air dam is also too low which scrapes on everything. It takes the truck from a 21-23 degree approach angle to a 18 degree approach angle which is worse than some cars. Takes about 30 min to remove and i notice zero MPG hit when it was off. I replaced the factory plastic skid plates with the GM performance ZR2 style skid plates for $240 which bolt right into existing tapped holes.

Stock OE twin tube shocks are flat garbage. Hit a bridge expansion joint and it will nearly send the rear end skyward. They have so much compression damping dialed it is flat scary to drive over anything more than a small bump at speed. ZR2's have the slick DSSV dampers which cure this entirely. For us not in a ZR2, i swapped in the Bilstein 5100's set to level the front at 1.3" and the rear is stock height. The monotube 5100 dampers feel sooooooo much better all around, at speed, slow offroad, rain....just completely transforms the truck.

OE headlights are garbage. They are projector housings but use a halogen bulb. Easily some of the worst headlights ive ever used. Swapped a set of JDAstar cheap-o LED bulbs into them and that improved visibility tenfold at night. Also swapped the fog lights to a set of JDAstar bulbs which added to the light output.

The brakes are insanely good. 4 piston floating caliper up front and 1 piston sliding caliper in the rear. The rotors are supposed to be that duralife stuff and wear is non-existent at 40k miles so far. They did the homework required on this braking system for sure. Chevy did change the fronts to sliding calipers for the 2021 model year for some reason though as i was at the dealer the other day to get serviced and looked at a ZR2 on the lot. Dont know why they would get rid of a floating caliper except for cost reasons.

Other than those, its not a bad truck at all. It tows 5500ish pounds extremely easy. They state it only has 181hp but people have dynoed them at or above that horsepower mark at the wheels. You can feel the 369lb-ft of torque though. Truck pulls hard from a stop and with tow mode on doesnt have the torque modulation as bad which helps getting up to speed. Visibility while towing is also really good for a mid size truck and you dont really feel like you need extended mirrors.

If you have any other questions please let me know. Here is a photo of my truck as it currently sits.

ZR2 sliders, 255/65R17(OE size, but want to go to 265/65R17 off a ZR2), 1.3" level with Bilstein 5100's, GMPP skid plates, CBI style ditchlights, Gator tri-fold tonneau....etc.
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Other than those, its not a bad truck at all.

Damn, if this is a good review I would like to know what a bad review is ;)

Thanks for all the thought. Cold weather is the big issue for me. It does not get above 0 f for months at a time where I am at and there is no way the diesel will work. Shit it is <45 for much of the SUMMER LOL.

I have a Toyota at the moment and it is crazy what some guys will put up with quality garbage IMO. I am coming up on 40k miles and have not had to do a single thing to it, nothing. It is underpowered and the tranny feels like it is out of the 90s but it is hassle free for sure.
 

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My co worker has a 15 Tacoma and has owned Toyota’s his whole life. He’s art of that Toyota cult mental issue. Carpooled in with him one day and was grateful we made it in one piece. The truck felt like I was riding in a Pepsi can on wheels. I think he’s over it and wants to move on to something else. Sucks you can’t get a diesel there. Being in a desert here in SoCal, the cold sounds nice. Guess I’d finally have to change like 5 of my blown out glow plugs if I go visit your neck of the woods.


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FWIW, for the cold start surges try a slightly thinner oil. I was running 15w-40 in my 6.7 during the summer and when the winter months hit I would get cold start surges. These were 30-40 cold starts. Switched back to the recommended 5w-30 (or maybe its 10w-30, I'd have to double check) and its been fine since. It was 38 degrees when I drove to work on Monday.
 

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FWIW, for the cold start surges try a slightly thinner oil. I was running 15w-40 in my 6.7 during the summer and when the winter months hit I would get cold start surges. These were 30-40 cold starts. Switched back to the recommended 5w-30 (or maybe its 10w-30, I'd have to double check) and its been fine since. It was 38 degrees when I drove to work on Monday.

FWIW, Chevy has identified that it may be due to the "high idle" programming. Others have issues and then there are some with no issues at all. So its quite intermittent. The other odd thing about it is the first year i had the truck it did it non-stop but last year it was half and half even in the same weather on the same day. I would start the truck in the morning and no issues. Go to work and then at the end of the day start it up and it would start surging.

I still think its fuel related but i cant figure it out. Ive tried every stupid anti-gel formula possible with no change. Changed the diesel station ive gone to to get diesel and even confirmed they had winter blend with two different stations to see if that made a difference. It was still hit or miss when starting the truck from a dead cold(longer than 4-5 hours sitting).
 

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Damn, if this is a good review I would like to know what a bad review is ;)

Thanks for all the thought. Cold weather is the big issue for me. It does not get above 0 f for months at a time where I am at and there is no way the diesel will work. Shit it is <45 for much of the SUMMER LOL.

I have a Toyota at the moment and it is crazy what some guys will put up with quality garbage IMO. I am coming up on 40k miles and have not had to do a single thing to it, nothing. It is underpowered and the tranny feels like it is out of the 90s but it is hassle free for sure.

The Colorado hasn't failed me yet. That is why the review is good. Its been through some extremely sketchy weather events and done everything i have asked it to do, CEL on or not. The last odd adventure was going home from work and getting caught in a raging flood event. Water up to the bottom of the doors and flowing fast but didn't really have an issue. Truck just went through it until i got to a part that i was uncomfortable going forward.

It gets incredible mileage for a near 5000lb truck - 29-31mpg highway and 22-24mpg city driving. Even when towing its at or right under 20mpg with a 5500lbs car and trailer on the back. Road trips are just easy when the diesel is just trotting along.

Light offroad its been exceptional also. I am a bit worried about the G80 differential though since people seem to blow them up quite a bit even without bigger tires. Hope i dont have that problem *crosses fingers*.

My brother has a Taco TRD Sport and loves the thing. Its a 2wd but he bought it expecting to drive it until the earth disintegrates.
 

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FWIW, for the cold start surges try a slightly thinner oil. I was running 15w-40 in my 6.7 during the summer and when the winter months hit I would get cold start surges. These were 30-40 cold starts. Switched back to the recommended 5w-30 (or maybe its 10w-30, I'd have to double check) and its been fine since. It was 38 degrees when I drove to work on Monday.

5w-30 in my 6.7

started it in 19 degree weather two days ago, and even threw it into high idle 5 min later. No issues at all.
 

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My brother in law has a v6 colorado and after driving that truck with that engine I don't see a lot of reason to pony up for the diesel. It does shockingly well on fuel and has plenty of power, even while towing an open tandem with a car on top.

To pile on with what Kevin said about the throttle, that's a Chevy thing as far as I can tell. I drove my duramax for a few weeks and the night before I sold my F250 I nearly did a burnout just pulling it around into the driveway. The throttle takes a TON of movement to translate to actually do anything which is the exact opposite of Fords.
 

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My brother in law has a v6 colorado and after driving that truck with that engine I don't see a lot of reason to pony up for the diesel. It does shockingly well on fuel and has plenty of power, even while towing an open tandem with a car on top.

I saw the opposite. The gas engine while amazing just sits WAY too high in the rev range for me while towing. This is for any gas engine that is naturally aspirated.

I have not gotten a chance to tow with a Ranger but i would hope that with the turbocharged 2.3 it would be able to upshift a little lower in the rev range knowing the turbos start to wheeze out above 5500.

For the Duramax it just puts along as long as you keep speed within reason. If i have the car trailer hooked up, in tow mode with the exhaust brake enabled running 55-60mph it will hold around 2300-2500rpm. Its an electronic exhaust brake also which takes some time to get used to but is quite effective since you dont have to listen to the roar unlike the full size diesels. Chevy spent alot of time and money making sure this was a quiet diesel no matter what the scenario.
 

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I have 19 TRD Offroad. It's certainly not a perfect truck between a engine that's weak on the bottom end and odd trans programing. Both can be fixed with a $250 tune though. Besides that and a recent fuel pump recall they're been pretty solid and it's rare to see a major issue with them.

Tacoma's have great resale and despite all of antidotal evidence here I'd venture to say it will be the most reliable in the long run. Nice thing is if you get one and don't like it for whatever reason you won't lose your shirt on it.

This is my first non-Ford after my 15 F150 burned me they pushed me to another brand. Didn't like the looks of the GM twins, Frontier is to ancient and Ranger was expensive at the time and I was pissed at Ford. No truck is perfect but so far I've gotten used to the engine/trans combo and am overall happy.
 

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I am thinking of a Tacoma TRD or Colorado Duramax ZR2. Anyone have any experience? I have plenty of experience with Toyota and thinking of mixing it up. If Chevy is the Duramax worth it?

I test drove the ZR2 with and without the Duramax. I actually really liked the truck and all of it's features like the electric front/rear locking diffs & exhaust brake, fancy shocks etc. and put a deposit on it. The gasser was very peppy and it was fun to drive but I knew I wanted the Duramax. They didn't have one so they shipped one in a couple days later after I put my deposit down. When I test drove it, it ended up feeling very slow and sluggish. Obviously it wouldn't feel the same as the gasser but I honestly wasn't comparing them. Just in general it felt like it was lazy. That's just my 2 cents, but I still ended up deciding to purchase it because I knew it would wake up with the deletes, tune and bolt ons, so I wasn't too worried about it.

I like it much more than the TRD. Never actually got it though. The dealer jacked me around on the numbers for 2 days after the salesman told me that my offer was fine, so I told them to pound sand and ended up finding a rare Hummer H3T Alpha truck with the lockers and an LS. Took those azzhats a week to refund my deposit.

TLDR: Go for the ZR2. The engine option is up to you.
 

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