Tesla -- Take Your Profits

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You literally have no idea what you're talking about. Tesla is in the exact opposite situation that you're describing.
 

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You literally have no idea what you're talking about. Tesla is in the exact opposite situation that you're describing.
Again, they have manipulated stock prices on the backs of billions from China and the Mexican cartels. Insider trading, fraud, money laundering, false quarterly reports, false unit sales, etc etc.

Tesla can’t sell a unit without huge government subsidies with no competition and an economic moat. How are they going to survive as those two items disappear? It you don’t want to see it. Keep your head in the sand. That’s up to you.
 

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Again, they have manipulated stock prices on the backs of billions from China and the Mexican cartels. Insider trading, fraud, money laundering, false quarterly reports, false unit sales, etc etc.

Tesla can’t sell a unit without huge government subsidies with no competition and an economic moat. How are they going to survive as those two items disappear? It you don’t want to see it. Keep your head in the sand. That’s up to you.

How they will answer the tsunami of EV's coming into regular dealerships will tell the tale.
 

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Omg..you just don't see it.
Tesla ....NOT a car company.
They have been single handedly chosen by the market to create the energy infrastructure FOR EARTH.

What's the market cap worth for the worlds energy solutions... right now it's under half a trillion.
 

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Omg..you just don't see it.
Tesla ....NOT a car company.
They have been single handedly chosen by the market to create the energy infrastructure FOR EARTH.

What's the market cap worth for the worlds energy solutions... right now it's under half a trillion.
Would that be Solar City you speak of?
 

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Again, they have manipulated stock prices on the backs of billions from China and the Mexican cartels. Insider trading, fraud, money laundering, false quarterly reports, false unit sales, etc etc.

Tesla can’t sell a unit without huge government subsidies with no competition and an economic moat. How are they going to survive as those two items disappear? It you don’t want to see it. Keep your head in the sand. That’s up to you.

Your ignorance is stunning.

How they will answer the tsunami of EV's coming into regular dealerships will tell the tale.

Very true. However, one of the first things they teach you in business school is the concept of first to market. Being first to market is often more important than everything else. The fact that they've done that AND innovated and sold a $hit-ton of cars tells me they're going to compete just fine. Years ago they had partnerships to sell batteries to other auto manufacturers. The way ALL the car companies are taking it in the shorts this year tells me they're probably more, not less likely to enter into agreements with Tesla going forward. Why invest billions in R&D and MFG batteries if you're not 100% sure you're going to recoup the investment, when you can source them from Tesla for a lot less in the interim.

Omg..you just don't see it.
Tesla ....NOT a car company.
They have been single handedly chosen by the market to create the energy infrastructure FOR EARTH.

What's the market cap worth for the worlds energy solutions... right now it's under half a trillion.

This. The current problem here in CA with respect to the power generation and grid is not the ability to produce electricity, it's the inability to supply it late in the afternoon and evening in the summer when everyone cranks up their AC and plugs their EV's in. Grid scale battery deployment is coming to a solar/wind power plant near you.
 

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Very true. However, one of the first things they teach you in business school is the concept of first to market. Being first to market is often more important than everything else. The fact that they've done that AND innovated and sold a $hit-ton of cars tells me they're going to compete just fine. Years ago they had partnerships to sell batteries to other auto manufacturers. The way ALL the car companies are taking it in the shorts this year tells me they're probably more, not less likely to enter into agreements with Tesla going forward. Why invest billions in R&D and MFG batteries if you're not 100% sure you're going to recoup the investment, when you can source them from Tesla for a lot less in the interim.

The lack of a regular dealer network going up against Ford, GM, Fiat, Kia, Mazda, VW, Hyundai dealer networks covering the entire USA I believe will cause them to lose significant market share. They were first to market, but outside of a few geographic area's, customers didn't want EV. It remains to be seen if the EV bets all these companies are making will actually payoff. Trump is not going to mandate EV, so who wins 2020 will have a significant impact on EV sales.
 

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It’s interesting to me that major golf cart manufacturers like Clubcar and Yamaha offer both electric and ICE powered carts and continue to improve both versions.

If you can’t convince a golf course to go all electric, with controlled range, no usage after dusk, easy plug in with carts garaged at night, how do they think this will be different for auto?

Tesla is putting all its eggs in 1 basket. Should be interesting to see how BEV F150 does against ICE versions when launched. It may make it hard for Wall Street to sell the ‘Tesla is the future’ BS, not to mention that unless BEV demand goes parabolic (all indicators are no) then Tesla will only stand to lose market share as legacy offerings come on board.
 

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It’s interesting to me that major golf cart manufacturers like Clubcar and Yamaha offer both electric and ICE powered carts and continue to improve both versions.

If you can’t convince a golf course to go all electric, with controlled range, no usage after dusk, easy plug in with carts garaged at night, how do they think this will be different for auto?

Tesla is putting all its eggs in 1 basket. Should be interesting to see how BEV F150 does against ICE versions when launched. It may make it hard for Wall Street to sell the ‘Tesla is the future’ BS, not to mention that unless BEV demand goes parabolic (all indicators are no) then Tesla will only stand to lose market share as legacy offerings come on board.

Tesla is benefitting from a tremendous inflow of money from millennials that have started investing. They can feel good about green investing. When do they stop?
 

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you know whats ****ing funny but realistic? tesla missed the s&p500. And THATS why i'm not investing in them.
 

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Tesla -12% after S&P 500 snub sends shockwaves
Sep. 8, 2020 7:44 AM ET|About: Tesla, Inc. (TSLA)|By: Clark Schultz, SA News Editor


Shares of Tesla (NASDAQ:TSLA) race lower in early trading after the company didn't make the S&P 500 Index as part of the September quarterly rebalancing.

"The profitability metrics and forecast likely was the swaying factor that might have excluded Tesla this time around. In a nutshell Tesla not getting into the S&P 500 will be a head scratcher to the bulls that viewed this as virtually a lock given all the parameters met," notes Wedbush Securities analyst Dan Ives.

Telsa this morning disclosed the completion of its $5B at-the-market share offering. Final settlement is expected by September 9.

Tesla is down 12.44% in premarket action to $366.57.
 

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Tesla blows off three weeks of gains with 17% drop
Sep. 8, 2020 10:16 AM ET|About: Tesla, Inc. (TSLA)|By: Clark Schultz, SA News Editor


Tesla (NASDAQ:TSLA) is down 17.20% to mark its biggest one-day drop since March. Of course, shares are still up dramatically for the year.
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Wall Street analysts are taking the drop in stride, with the average price target of $296.79 implying that there is still more downside to be had. Bernstein is the most vocal today, with a reiteration of its Underweight rating due to valuation. For his part, Elon Musk tweeted that Tesla's share price was too high way back in May when they were are at a split-adjusted level of around $140.

Tesla is down almost 30% for buyers that joined the party at the top price of $502.49.

Looking ahead, Tesla is holding a highly-anticipated Battery Day event on September 22 in what could certainly be a catalyst for the EV stock.
 

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The lack of a regular dealer network going up against Ford, GM, Fiat, Kia, Mazda, VW, Hyundai dealer networks covering the entire USA I believe will cause them to lose significant market share. They were first to market, but outside of a few geographic area's, customers didn't want EV. It remains to be seen if the EV bets all these companies are making will actually payoff. Trump is not going to mandate EV, so who wins 2020 will have a significant impact on EV sales.

This plays out similar to Android taking Apple's market share.
 

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Massive market manipulation to raise money for spacex. Damn why doesn’t Elon use $50b of his own money? That’s right why use your billions when you can steal it....
 
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And GM just dropped 2 billion to buy investment in Nikola Corp. probably a smart move on their part to get them into the EV sector without spending tons of R&D.
 

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Tesla sees biggest one-day percentage loss, off 21%
Sep. 8, 2020 4:38 PM ET|About: Tesla, Inc. (TSLA)|By: Kim Khan, SA News Editor


Tesla (TSLA, -21.06%) had its biggest one-day percentage drop as it continued to chip away at the gains it made after it announced its stock split.

The decline topped the previous record of a 19.3% drop on Jan. 13 2012 after it announced two executive departures ahead of the selling debut of the Model S. The stock bounced back 17% the next day.

Tesla lost $82.1B in market cap today.

The stock is off nearly 34% from its recent high on August 31. But it is still up 20% from when it announced the stock split on August 11.
 

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tesla is a disease, fueled by the robinhood degenerate retards, who have no ****ing idea how to trade stocks. they just pump the stock on stupid news. regardless, I will play off those retards, and make money on those pumps. would I invest in them long term? no way in hell. will I play the weekly pumps? hell yes I will, as long as the retards keep pumping it.
 

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tesla is a disease, fueled by the robinhood degenerate retards, who have no ****ing idea how to trade stocks. they just pump the stock on stupid news. regardless, I will play off those retards, and make money on those pumps. would I invest in them long term? no way in hell. will I play the weekly pumps? hell yes I will, as long as the retards keep pumping it.
Also fueled by billions from the ccp and Mexican drug cartels. Nice little money laundering inside trading scheme they have to make musk billions.
 

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