If u wouldn't use the raptor to what it was built for than yes no purpose it getting one . They fact that your Silverado is is sufficient enough for your needs says it all. It wouldn't makes sense for you to get a trx either .....
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If u wouldn't use the raptor to what it was built for than yes no purpose it getting one . They fact that your Silverado is is sufficient enough for your needs says it all. It wouldn't makes sense for you to get a trx either .....
That's kinda like saying, "If Tesla makes an extremely capable car, why would anyone want an engine? Just for the sake of saying they have one?" I have a '19 Raptor that I daily and I wish there was a V8 option. Not so I could say it, but so I could feel the better performance it would offer, and for the actual good sound compared to the awful V6. I hope the TRX either carves a huge chunk of Raptor sales from Ford, or forces Ford to put the 5.2 from the GT500 in the Raptor. There are companies solely devoted to V8 swapping Raptors, so the demand is there. Please explain the downside.
You just contradicted yourself in your own post.
" I want a V8 not just for sound but so I can feel the better performance " ........ the EcoBoost in the raptor outperforms the old 6.2 in every measurable metric so don't give me the better performance line.
I to wouldn't mind have a V8 raptor but I prefer performance over all so I wouldn't buy a lesser truck just because it has a V8.....let me say that again because ppl ( not you) have a hard time understanding this........
I would like a V8 in a raptor BUT I don't mind a V6 or V6 hybrid IF it out performs a V8.
If the Gen 3 raptor has a Ecopower motor ( V6 hybrid) and it outperforms the TRX it will be clear who is buying a truck for true performance and who is buying a truck for sound.
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I understand what you are saying it just wouldn't make business sense . How many other models do you know that offer 2 engine choices in their top model ?
Does does Chevy in the Z06, does , Ford in the GT or even GT500? None? Ok how about none American vehicles......GTR? huracan ? 488gtb? .....
This goes back to the death of the manual in high performance cars, you think ppl don't want a manual in the nsx, huracan , hell even the new C8 vette.....it doesn't make business sense to R&D two different power plants in a halo vehicle.
And I would love for the raptor to have a V8 but it is not a end all be all. What makes the raptor a raptor is it's over all capabilities and dominance in the segment. If the Gen 3 beats the TRX using a V6 then it is indeed a raptor.
Completely understand and thanks for clarifying in the end. I agree with you and would also (probably) get the better performing truck if it meant V6 hybrid. There's no way it would be cheaper for Ford engineering wise to do that when they have the 5.2 GT500 engine sitting on the shelf though.
I know the 3.5 EBHO in the current Raptor outperforms the older 6.2, but I am talking about something comparable to the Hellcat engine, like the 5.2 in the GT500. That engine in the current Raptor would be the ultimate truck, but they would definitely need to upgrade the rear suspension for all that power. Hopefully the Gen 3 will solve that and from the spy photos, it looks like it will.
It may not be cheaper but it wouldn't be more expensive, yes they have a GT500 motor sitting on the shelf did you forget about the aviator grand touring hybrid motor? That motor makes 650tq now and 450hp.....that could easily be modify to trx competitor ( powerwise) ....
Ford has options unlike dodge and to me that gives them the better chance of making the better overall truck. And you are right about those spy shots. Looks like no more leaf springs which was an Achilles heel of the raptor.
Again for the record I am not saying I don't feel like the 5.2 in a raptor wouldn't be amazing, hell i prefer it over the 7.3 anyday . I am just saying I wouldn't say the trx is better because the raptor DID NOT have the 5.2 motor.
Can't wait to see the TRX do it's best impression of a lawn dart with a heavy ass front end.
Weight over the front end doesn't matter......we have been over than already. Did u skip class that day? Lol
That is up until you do the General Lee mod by putting 800 lbs of concrete in the bed. But the owners are not smart enough to figure that out.
The Ram Runner was an after thought, it was not even a true factory production effort, all that shit was thrown on by dealers out of the mopar catalog and from Kroeker Off-Road Engineering...
Yea, I actually liked how they did it personally. Buy any model of Ram and have it converted. But in the end most offroad intellectuals just bought a Ram or whatever half ton and had a real suspension thrown in by a reputable shop.
It would need a lot more than just rear suspension to handle that motor. That's the power level that actual trophy trucks run. These TRX RAMS are going to be wadded up sooo often. Like the early days of the Raptor. Now all these Hellcat non offroading people buy their "factory Raptor killing trophy truck" there will be a whole new wave of videos
I look forward to this...youtube etc has been a big source of my entertainment lately....
Cant wait to see them flipping in ditches
Raptor has to be the worst sounding vehicle to roll out of an auto factory in my opinion. Either muffle it down or go v8.
While I will agree that the gen 2 raptor does not sound good it is far from the worse. My E46 M3 and my wifes F82 M4 both sound WAY worse than a raptor lol
Note: article in C&D this morning showed a 2021 Raptor mule with a coil rear suspension.
This is a quote from a member on the raptor forums ....
"I’ve been following the TRX for years, and I finally gave up and bought my Raptor. I’m a Dodge/Ram guy at heart, and if you ignore the sound the EcoPoop makes, the Raptor is one hell of a truck. Ram is going to have to build one hell of a truck to compete with the Raptor. I had a Challenger Hellcat for 3 years and sold it because you can only go fast in a straight line so many times. I drool at the thought of 700hp, but it’s going to take more than that to be a true competitor of the Raptor"
I believe this will be the case with a TRX....it will be the hellcat of the truck world. It will have power and be fast in a straight line but fall short in every other aspect. Of course only time will tell
"I’ve been following the TRX for years, and I finally gave up and bought my Raptor. I’m a Dodge/Ram guy at heart, and if you ignore the sound the EcoPoop makes, the Raptor is one hell of a truck. Ram is going to have to build one hell of a truck to compete with the Raptor. I had a Challenger Hellcat for 3 years and sold it because you can only go fast in a straight line so many times. I drool at the thought of 700hp, but it’s going to take more than that to be a true competitor of the Raptor"
I believe this will be the case with a TRX....it will be the hellcat of the truck world. It will have power and be fast in a straight line but fall short in every other aspect. Of course only time will tell
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