Let’s see those 450-500whp acceleration videos

1AestheticCobra said:

Kind of what I’m thinking although it’s already on 10psi. Still runs like a dog though.

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I say 8psi for two reasons. 1) stock rods don't like more than 8psi for very long at the factory rev limit 2) with regular 93 pump gas, my personal limit on boost without a cooler is 8psi.

Ideally, get a cooler though if you can. It's just smart. A 170° thermostat with adjusted fan on/off settings in the tune could help save your bacon too.

The car does have the 60# injectors as well. As of right now the only thing I’m seeing that it for sure doesn’t have is the caster camber plates. Regardless of if the motor is built or not though I think the power levels I’m wanting will be obtained with a good tune and gears.

311-420 said:

I say 8psi for two reasons. 1) stock rods don't like more than 8psi for very long at the factory rev limit 2) with regular 93 pump gas, my personal limit on boost without a cooler is 8psi.

Ideally, get a cooler though if you can. It's just smart. A 170° thermostat with adjusted fan on/off settings in the tune could help save your bacon too.

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311-420 said:

I say 8psi for two reasons. 1) stock rods don't like more than 8psi for very long at the factory rev limit 2) with regular 93 pump gas, my personal limit on boost without a cooler is 8psi.

Ideally, get a cooler though if you can. It's just smart. A 170° thermostat with adjusted fan on/off settings in the tune could help save your bacon too.

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I think I’m going to get a Cx intercooler kit ASAP. They are only about $500.

Black02GT said:

Wouldnt get too down got a decent set of parts and a nice car for a reasonable price. Now you just have to do it right.

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Yeah he scored a sweet color too. I'd rock the f out of it. As long as the engine is healthy and it shifts good he did ok.

1AestheticCobra said:

I think I’m going to get a Cx intercooler kit ASAP. They are only about $500.

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Sounds worth it to me. More safety, more power. The intercooler should also lower the boost a little which would be good if it truly makes 10psi.

Before you spend anymore though id pull the plugs and make sure there's nothing fd up and do an oil change and inspect it also. An oil analysis from blackstone is $28 well spent especially on a new car. Up to you. And of course compression or leak down testing is worth doing when buying boosted stuff. If you have a little fiber optic camera, or want to rent one from the auto store, you could poke it down each hole when changing to new plugs and make sure the pistons look ok. It's not as thorough as a real test but could still tip you off to a major issue before you spend anymore on it.

311-420 said:

Sounds worth it to me. More safety, more power. The intercooler should also lower the boost a little which would be good if it truly makes 10psi.

Before you spend anymore though id pull the plugs and make sure there's nothing fd up and do an oil change and inspect it also. An oil analysis from blackstone is $28 well spent especially on a new car. Up to you. And of course compression or leak down testing is worth doing when buying boosted stuff. If you have a little fiber optic camera, or want to rent one from the auto store, you could poke it down each hole when changing to new plugs and make sure the pistons look ok. It's not as thorough as a real test but could still tip you off to a major issue before you spend anymore on it.

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yeah I will probably look into doing all of that. The car runs damn smooth and still pulls pretty hard. Just no where close to what I was expecting. I did look and it also has the MAF that the sheet lists.. I think with a tune and gears I would be happy for sure.

It's a decent buy regardless. Looks clean, has a good foundation of parts. But I'd forget that build sheet and assume you only have what you can verify at this point. Get an intercooler on there, go to a blow through set up, and have it tuned. Should have a shit ton of fun after that.

I was able to get a hold of the guy who had it built. Found out it has Manley rods and pistons.

I was able to get a hold of the guy who had it built. Found out it has Manley rods and pistons.

what compression does it have?

98 Saleen Cobra said:

what compression does it have?

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that’s my question for the builder. The owner gave me his contact info. He said it was built to handle 800whp. He originally had a V 3 on it though. He sent me videos of it from when right after it had been built and nothing really looks like it has changed.

1AestheticCobra said:

that’s my question for the builder. The owner gave me his contact info. He said it was built to handle 800whp. He originally had a V 3 on it though. He sent me videos of it from when right after it had been built and nothing really looks like it has changed.

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Was this the guy you bought it from, or has there been an owner in between?

1AestheticCobra said:

that’s my question for the builder. The owner gave me his contact info. He said it was built to handle 800whp. He originally had a V 3 on it though. He sent me videos of it from when right after it had been built and nothing really looks like it has changed.

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So as of now you know that two pieces have been removed. The caster camber plates and the V3. I'd really take the time to go through the car if you have the time.

nomoretickets said:

Was this the guy you bought it from, or has there been an owner in between?

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There has been two owners in between. There’s only 13k miles on the build and the previous guy didn’t touch anything performance wise. The owner before him must’ve pulled the v3 and camber plates. The original owner sent me a vid of the motor running in the car though and everything looked exactly the same as it does now except a little cleaner considering it was basically new.

Adower said:

So as of now you know that two pieces have been removed. The caster camber plates and the V3. I'd really take the time to go through the car if you have the time.

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That’s my plan man although there’s not much more I can verify visually I don’t think. It has the same MAF, plug wires, fuel injectors, vortech set up looks the same other than the head unit I guess, and it has the K member. There may be other stuff I am missing.

1AestheticCobra said:

There has been two owners in between. There’s only 13k miles on the build and the previous guy didn’t touch anything performance wise. The owner before him must’ve pulled the v3 and camber plates. The original owner sent me a vid of the motor running in the car though and everything looked exactly the same as it does now except a little cleaner considering it was basically new.

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I didn’t even think to ask but this guy did almost part the car out before someone bought it whole. Someone very well could’ve bought the camber plates and v-3, but idk. Attached is the originally owners for sale post.

1AestheticCobra said:

I didn’t even think to ask but this guy did almost part the car out before someone bought it whole. Someone very well could’ve bought the camber plates and v-3, but idk. Attached is the originally owners for sale post.

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Given the owners in between, different blower, other parts removed, serious disparity between SOP feel and the dyno sheets, I would be really cautious about whats actually inside that motor. I know the original owner says he built it with all forged internals, but you dont really have any way of knowing if that motor or shortblock is still in the car right now, especially if the guy got started on parting it out. Quickest way to get burnt buying performance cars is to just take someones word for it that its been built or done right. As the old adage goes, trust but verify.

nomoretickets said:

Given the owners in between, different blower, other parts removed, serious disparity between SOP feel and the dyno sheets, I would be really cautious about whats actually inside that motor. I know the original owner says he built it with all forged internals, but you dont really have any way of knowing if that motor or shortblock is still in the car right now, especially if the guy got started on parting it out. Quickest way to get burnt buying performance cars is to just take someones word for it that its been built or done right. As the old adage goes, trust but verify.

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No I don’t know for sure, but the fact that everything matches, but a few parts that are pretty easy to remove kind of gives me a lot of faith. This motor is pretty damn clean and he said he sold the car with the motor. He said the day after he listed It to part out someone bought it whole. I guess my thing is at this point the power I’m wanting is something these motors are more than capable of handling stock. Also like stated the IMRC could be my whole issue. From what I’ve read these make a huge difference on power when they are stuck closed. I’m hoping a tune will really bring it to life. I appreciate all the insight. It’s been extremely helpful.

It sounds like you built the car up in your head versus what it really feels like. The motors in these cars are plenty capable when built. The thing everyone in here is trying to get you to see is that just because it says it on the "build sheet" it's been built, doesn't mean it actually is. And if you're unhappy with it, then sell it if it doesn't meet your standards. But, like I said in my frist post, find out what gears are in it. Seems like you haven't really put much thought into finding out if it has gears or not. If you put 410s and get a real tune, I'm willing to bet it will be more than you can handle.

jman37 said:

It sounds like you built the car up in your head versus what it really feels like. The motors in these cars are plenty capable when built. The thing everyone in here is trying to get you to see is that just because it says it on the "build sheet" it's been built, doesn't mean it actually is. And if you're unhappy with it, then sell it if it doesn't meet your standards. But, like I said in my frist post, find out what gears are in it. Seems like you haven't really put much thought into finding out if it has gears or not. If you put 410s and get a real tune, I'm willing to bet it will be more than you can handle.

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I did build up the thought of this car pulling hard as hell... Yeah and I get exactly what is being said. No concrete evidence for the motor being built, great and I agree, but this post isn’t really pertaining to the car being built vs not. It’s referring to the lack of power this thing has. It’s running with a 300 wheel car. The last part of your response pretty much answers my concern. For the gears it has stock or close to it as it cruises 70 right around 2k RPMs. My goal right now is 4.10s, possibly air to air kit and take it to the tuner.

Also I just got ahold of the last guy to tamper with the car who had it dynoed. He said the dyno was a very generous one and it probably made somewhere closer to 440 or so and while it was at the shop having an oil line ran they pulled the pan and confirmed the forged internals. Seems more legit, but again I’ll take it with a grain of salt even though he doesn’t have a reason to lie. He now owns 1300whp cobra so he said this car didn’t do to much for him.