A guy at work bought a diesel GMC truck and got an 84 month payment. The dealer wasn’t doing a zero interest on diesel either. I couldn’t imagine paying interest on a vehicle for 84 months.
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A guy at work bought a diesel GMC truck and got an 84 month payment. The dealer wasn’t doing a zero interest on diesel either. I couldn’t imagine paying interest on a vehicle for 84 months.
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18mpg combined on the ecoboost is laughable first of all. So is 22 for the powerstroke. Those numbers are more like 16 and 28. Diesel is no $1 more per gallon, it's about .50 more per gallon. $1000 in DEF? LMAO.. ok. Plus no one was even talking about that junk, overpriced powerstroke...
The comparison we are talking about was/is Ram Hemi vs. 3.0 Ecodiesel and/or GM 6.2 vs. their new 3.0 duramax.
For either above you can expect ~16 mpg combined out of the 6.2 or 5.7. Give or take 2 mpg. For the diesels, you can expect 28 combined give or take 2 mpg.
At 1500 miles per month (i would say is average for most) the gas engines are using 93.75 gallons of fuel. At $2/gallon thats $187.5.
At 1500 miles per month the diesel engines are using 53.6 gallons costing $134.
Annual savings on fuel is about $650 per year with the diesel which means it would take you 3 years to recover the cost of the upgrade.
Obviously if you drive twice that amount (many people do), it would only take a year and a half.
But all of that aside, some people just want a diesel because they are torquey'er early in the rpm range and are more enjoyable while towing.
Not to mention the fact that it is VERY easy to add power to an already turbocharged engine.
Any of the light duty diesel motors will make 500+ wheel torque with very simple changes.
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28mpg in the diesel?
Back in 2008/2009 lots of ford dealers closed and went out of business, unfortunately i see that happening all over again because of the lack of wanting to sell.
So far i have been contacted today alone by more dodge dealership in 1 day than in the last month by ford dealerships. Thats not a good sign for ford dealership in my area.
No its not. Who told you that?
Only truck ive seen doing that was dodge eco diesel 2wd, you will not get that with a well optioned truck and 4x4.
The comparison used was not apples to apples.
Theres no data there. The only real info ive seen unbiased is TFL truck. They use the same method for real world numbers
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The problem with your post was the true cost of def. You also did not post actual cost of diesel fuel and real cost of 87 octane.
Currently in nor cal 87 is $2.49 to about $2.89 a gallon.
Diesel cost about $3.59-$3.99 a gallon.
Def cost about $7 to $8 a gallon
Does the dealer pay the manufacturer for the vehicle when it’s delivered to the dealer or when it’s sold to the Customer?
I’ve heard both.
That is why I put "sold" in quotation marks. Most dealerships tend to floorplan their inventory either through a bank or the manufacturer. Some manufacturers count a car as "sold" when it is delivered to the dealership.
Thinking they floor plan them, paying interest only for 30-90 days then principal and interest after that time.
They need churn
I believe it’s officially sold when it’s titled to a civilian. Demo and program cars probably different rules
Technically its not sold till a customer buys it. Thats what those quarterly sales numbers show. Most dealerships are making some sort of payments on the inventory.
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Sold is not the right word. I was looking at when the manufacturer gets the money from the dealer. If the manufacturer does not get paid until the customer pays for it they have excellent incentive to get it to the customer.
As I said earlier it’s better to get 90% than 0%. I’ve heard trucks make as much as $10k for the manufacturer at dealer pricing.
If a dealer pays $50k and msrp is $55k this would make manufacturer cost at $40k.
If the dealer sold this truck for $37k($36k ford, $1k dealer profit) it would then be sold at 90% of manufacturer cost.
Would ford sell it for this? Haha
Maybe I’m just not realistic. Again $36k is better than nothing or sitting around for another year.
Look I disagree. First off I used the EPA's numbers. I have 2019 Platinum with the 6.5' bed FX4 with the max tow package. Probably the heaviest F-150 you can get. I averaged 19.1 mpg over the course of 9400 miles. I often average over 20 mpg's on trips.
Second, nowhere in my region (NYC-Philly) is diesel within $.50/gallon. I buy it for my Kubota, my work trucks and equipment use it. Granted you're on the West coast and things may be different. But around here its a dollar more.
Thirdly, I can put a tune on my 3.5tt and I bet I'd post better numbers torque and horsepower wise.
But to each their own. Some people like diesels. I'm just saying it doesn't make financial sense.
Dooooo it!!
Looks good. Still waiting for the right deal. Apparently the scat pack charger is not available with the 0% for 84. Disappointed in that currently
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