First time driving a Tesla

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There isn't any cost savings (long term) due to the high price of the car.
Compared to the other cars in it's class the Model 3 doesn't appear to cost any more. It's resale is killer too, better than a Wrangler.
 

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Tesla loses over $600 million in 19 and their stock doubles...crazy

If Tesla is so profitable or has such a great product why does the governments from around the world have to pay for their factories? Even Bezos is envious! This con game is bigger than madoff.
 

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What class is really expensive commuter car in?
Same one as the other expensive commuter cars, I guess.

3 series, A4, C series, ES, ISX etc.

It's difficult to gauge where it should sit though. It's performance is in line with a drag radialed scat pack, interior materials with a base model Accord, and tech with a loaded-to-the-gills German.

I did find an article that does show over long term (6 years), they do make sense financially depending on the model. The base model 3 was only bested by an Accord Hybrid (assuming 10k miles per year) but the model 3 performance was down near the bottom, only beating a 440i. Resale wasn't taken into account though.
 

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Same one as the other expensive commuter cars, I guess.

3 series, A4, C series, ES, ISX etc.

It's difficult to gauge where it should sit though. It's performance is in line with a drag radialed scat pack, interior materials with a base model Accord, and tech with a loaded-to-the-gills German.

I did find an article that does show over long term (6 years), they do make sense financially depending on the model. The base model 3 was only bested by an Accord Hybrid (assuming 10k miles per year) but the model 3 performance was down near the bottom, only beating a 440i. Resale wasn't taken into account though.
The difference is the available travel distance. I can take any of those other cars on a trip to where ever and have very little hassle getting there. A Tesla is really good and going back and forth to work and other around town type trips. If I was looking for something to get me back and forth to work and save money at the pump I could do a lot better that a Tesla.
 

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It's better loaded than any other car on market...

Name another car that comes preloaded with Fart Mode

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Same one as the other expensive commuter cars, I guess.

3 series, A4, C series, ES, ISX etc.

It's difficult to gauge where it should sit though. It's performance is in line with a drag radialed scat pack, interior materials with a base model Accord, and tech with a loaded-to-the-gills German.

I did find an article that does show over long term (6 years), they do make sense financially depending on the model. The base model 3 was only bested by an Accord Hybrid (assuming 10k miles per year) but the model 3 performance was down near the bottom, only beating a 440i. Resale wasn't taken into account though.
Just to be clear, when all of the hurdles are cleared, more charging stations are installed and the price of vehicles becomes more comparable I'm in. There is a good chance I'll rent one for my wife for her birthday or something because she loves them.
 

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The difference is the available travel distance. I can take any of those other cars on a trip to where ever and have very little hassle getting there. A Tesla is really good and going back and forth to work and other around town type trips. If I was looking for something to get me back and forth to work and save money at the pump I could do a lot better that a Tesla.

The reality is most people don't take cross country trips. The other reality is there are a lot more chargers than you'd imagine. The extended range model 3 claims a 320 mile range. Let's say you get 80% of that in real world conditions, so 250 miles. At 250 miles, I am ready to get out of the car, stretch my legs and grab a bite to eat. Tesla even makes it easy to route your trip: put in your destination and it will plan your route to hit the charging stations as needed (and it will do all of the driving for you). The network of chargers is even pretty good today--and we're in the really early stages of infrastructure.

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But let's be more realistic: How often do you take that 250+ mile trip? How many households only have one car? If you make that 250+ mile trip often, do you not stop at all?

I get this is a performance car forum and we're all gearheads. There is a lot more to the EV story and I like where Tesla is going. I still want my fun/toy car, but I find the model 3 very appealing for daily driving duties.
 

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Apparently Tesla plans to increase the number of superchargers by 9x.

I'm not a buyer for one of these cars until the price is around half of what they are now. $56k would be more than I spent on the GT350. I'm also not a buyer unless I can put some solar panels on my roof and really take advantage.
 

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Apparently Tesla plans to increase the number of superchargers by 9x.

I'm not a buyer for one of these cars until the price is around half of what they are now. $56k would be more than I spent on the GT350. I'm also not a buyer unless I can put some solar panels on my roof and really take advantage.
I'm going to have to wait on the beater version before I can afford one.

The reality is most people don't take cross country trips. The other reality is there are a lot more chargers than you'd imagine. The extended range model 3 claims a 320 mile range. Let's say you get 80% of that in real world conditions, so 250 miles. At 250 miles, I am ready to get out of the car, stretch my legs and grab a bite to eat. Tesla even makes it easy to route your trip: put in your destination and it will plan your route to hit the charging stations as needed (and it will do all of the driving for you). The network of chargers is even pretty good today--and we're in the really early stages of infrastructure.

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But let's be more realistic: How often do you take that 250+ mile trip? How many households only have one car? If you make that 250+ mile trip often, do you not stop at all?

I get this is a performance car forum and we're all gearheads. There is a lot more to the EV story and I like where Tesla is going. I still want my fun/toy car, but I find the model 3 very appealing for daily driving duties.
I like where it's going as well. A step change in battery technology with the ever expanding charging network will make EV's very normalised faster than people think. I know in my area I'm seeing more of them every year.
 

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But let's be more realistic: How often do you take that 250+ mile trip? How many households only have one car? If you make that 250+ mile trip often, do you not stop at all?

I usually make 3 round trips per year to NC, 630 miles each way. I usually stop 2-3 times - 1 random pit stop, 1 for fuel and food, then one more bathroom/top off fuel. Fuel and food is maybe 20 minutes, the other 2 or 10 minutes or less. Assuming no wait for a charger it seems like it could easily add an hour or so to what's already a 9.5 hr trip on average.

I could see having an electric car for BS around town but I'd definitely still have the truck for trips
 

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Same one as the other expensive commuter cars, I guess.

3 series, A4, C series, ES, ISX etc.

It's difficult to gauge where it should sit though. It's performance is in line with a drag radialed scat pack, interior materials with a base model Accord, and tech with a loaded-to-the-gills German.

I did find an article that does show over long term (6 years), they do make sense financially depending on the model. The base model 3 was only bested by an Accord Hybrid (assuming 10k miles per year) but the model 3 performance was down near the bottom, only beating a 440i. Resale wasn't taken into account though.

the model 3 is an appealing commuter car for people like me with a 100 mile round trip commute.
 

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The reality is most people don't take cross country trips. The other reality is there are a lot more chargers than you'd imagine. The extended range model 3 claims a 320 mile range. Let's say you get 80% of that in real world conditions, so 250 miles. At 250 miles, I am ready to get out of the car, stretch my legs and grab a bite to eat. Tesla even makes it easy to route your trip: put in your destination and it will plan your route to hit the charging stations as needed (and it will do all of the driving for you). The network of chargers is even pretty good today--and we're in the really early stages of infrastructure.

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But let's be more realistic: How often do you take that 250+ mile trip? How many households only have one car? If you make that 250+ mile trip often, do you not stop at all?

I get this is a performance car forum and we're all gearheads. There is a lot more to the EV story and I like where Tesla is going. I still want my fun/toy car, but I find the model 3 very appealing for daily driving duties.
Who is paying for all these new chargers, the taxpayers or Tesla?
 

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Tesla, they know that the biggest impediment to adoption of EV's is charging them on longer trips.

They are not free, you have to pay for the electricity.
I thought in the Model S it was free for a limited time?

I know on the Model 3, they were never free

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I thought in the Model S it was free for a limited time?

I know on the Model 3, they were never free

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Early Performance versions of the 3 had unlimited Supercharging.
I think later people could trade it back for a $5,000 credit.
 

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Still none of you that are for these EV cars , are willing to discuss the unintended consequences i had mentioned .
Surely there is a reason .
Or you dont have an answer .
 

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Not exactly my intent of the thread

Wasn't looking for a pissing match between EV and ICE

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