financial dudez: 100g's investing....what do you do ?

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Buy an index fund if you want to make money. Google "passive vs active performance" if you want a breakdown of how bad the performance of stock pickers really is.

Anyone that tells you about all the money they are making with their stock picks is lying to you (no one ever talks about their losers) or does not know how to properly benchmark their performance and risk. In the long term less than 1% can beat the market.

Focus instead on asset allocation and minimizing transaction costs and taxes. Compounding at a tax free rate is unbeatable.

Rule of thumb on stock allocation is 100 less your age. So if you are 30 then you should be 70% stocks, 30% bonds.

Priorities if I were you.
1. max out 401k. Tax benefit is too great to ignore. Invest in S&P and do not even bother to look at statement.
2. same as above but Roth IRA instead of 401k.
3. same as above but IRA.
4. same as above but HSA. (these have same tax advantage as others but you can use for health expenditure which will be critical when you are retired).

If you want to make money, ignore anyone that talks up stock picks. I will bet any amount of money that they will underperform a buy and hold index strategy over any 10 year period. It might be entertaining to talk stocks but is a terrible approach to investing. I am a professional portfolio manager BTW.

Edit: all of above applies to house flippers. One of my firms investments is providing short term loans to house flippers. We have lent >$500m in the last 5 years. Return on equity of the guys we are lending to is <10% right now. That is a terrible return when you consider all the transaction fees, taxes, illiquidity and risk. I would bet that none of them netted more than 15% after fees and taxes even in the best of times.
This is actually very good advice.

Total 180 in regards to how you hard you pimped BSM last year. ;)
 

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I'll give you my bank account number, I'll help you out with the $$$
 

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I dunno if I take the word of somebody that doesnt know 2 vs 1

i kid i kid... those ****ing things are EVERYWHERE

I was just going to say maybe where you are, but I know elsewhere where they are not. They I saw your location and laughed, and agreed.

Smaller towns perhaps it would work well. My uncle did great with his. He owns a construction company so the building aspect was easy. The land was cheap, in a poor area. He was easily making money off it. Walmart contacted him, looking to buy the land at one point. That would have been a HUGE payday, but then decided on 2 miles away instead, the city cleared out all sorts of buildings for them....and then they canceled. That mayor didn't win reelection.
 

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I was just going to say maybe where you are, but I know elsewhere where they are not. They I saw your location and laughed, and agreed.

Smaller towns perhaps it would work well. My uncle did great with his. He owns a construction company so the building aspect was easy. The land was cheap, in a poor area. He was easily making money off it. Walmart contacted him, looking to buy the land at one point. That would have been a HUGE payday, but then decided on 2 miles away instead, the city cleared out all sorts of buildings for them....and then they canceled. That mayor didn't win reelection.

lol. I'm pretty sure we've met but its been a loooong time, back at the Lake Underhill/Alafaya hooters meets and shit maybe. Didn't you race a Ford GT down Curry Ford back in the day?

There's a tiny ass little town in BFE NC near where we go and even they have one of these storage unit places. Something about fools and their money
 

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Buy an index fund if you want to make money. Google "passive vs active performance" if you want a breakdown of how bad the performance of stock pickers really is.

Anyone that tells you about all the money they are making with their stock picks is lying to you (no one ever talks about their losers) or does not know how to properly benchmark their performance and risk. In the long term less than 1% can beat the market.

Focus instead on asset allocation and minimizing transaction costs and taxes. Compounding at a tax free rate is unbeatable.

Rule of thumb on stock allocation is 100 less your age. So if you are 30 then you should be 70% stocks, 30% bonds.

Priorities if I were you.
1. max out 401k. Tax benefit is too great to ignore. Invest in S&P and do not even bother to look at statement.
2. same as above but Roth IRA instead of 401k.
3. same as above but IRA.
4. same as above but HSA. (these have same tax advantage as others but you can use for health expenditure which will be critical when you are retired).

If you want to make money, ignore anyone that talks up stock picks. I will bet any amount of money that they will underperform a buy and hold index strategy over any 10 year period. It might be entertaining to talk stocks but is a terrible approach to investing.

I have to agree with this. These are the exact reasons I don't work with brokerage firms. If they really knew anything about the market, or individual stocks, or funds, do you think they'd tell anyone? They'd keep the information to themselves and make a fortune with it.
 

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I have to agree with this. These are the exact reasons I don't work with brokerage firms. If they really knew anything about the market, or individual stocks, or funds, do you think they'd tell anyone? They'd keep the information to themselves and make a fortune with it.
If your financial advisor isn't less than ~35years old, retired with a multi million dollar house, he's not good at what he does and he's swindling you one way or another.

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Flipping houses LOL.

Not a chance unless you’re very experienced in construction management and have a well trusted team of subs. When I get a call/email from a flipper I can’t tell them to pound sand fast enough.


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I've looked into flipping but even if you had a realtors license, might be hard pressed to make a buck in the current state of the market in the Phoenix area. Where I'm at (Gilbert) has been booming. House is up 21% since I bought it 2.5 years ago (Neighbor just sold his house with same layout as mine in 1 week, over zillow estimated price, over asking price) and PHX, Scottsdale and Tempe have been doing the same. People are speculating market correction soon. But imo, Demand continues to exceed supply which = higher prices.

As far as investing, these are my holds at the moment:

Long term: TNA (bought in at 49.50, have gotten some quite nice gains off the trump administration era ;) )
Short Term: NUGT, GDX, DUST. All related to gold, so some perform inversely of the stock market. IE, if market is down, and people buy gold, NUGT and GDX go up. If gold is shitty, DUST is up. Since they perform inversely of eachother, I wait until they dip real low till I buy in. For example, DUST dropped to 5.62 earlier today when I bought in, sold a few hours later for 5.92. easy gains. You can hold long term, but I don't stay greedy with it.
Also got 20 racks into NUGT awhile back at 27.10. Probably going to dump soon after seeing what happens in the upcoming weeks.

yep, I just bought a house in Surprise...lol. but even so, the PHX housing market isn't even close to CA. It's still about 20-30% cheaper. I will be decreasing my house payment, and walking with a good chunk of equity. And the interest rates are stupid low. IMO if Trump is re-elected, we will be golden for 4 more years.
 

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Buy an index fund if you want to make money. Google "passive vs active performance" if you want a breakdown of how bad the performance of stock pickers really is.

Anyone that tells you about all the money they are making with their stock picks is lying to you (no one ever talks about their losers) or does not know how to properly benchmark their performance and risk. In the long term less than 1% can beat the market.

Focus instead on asset allocation and minimizing transaction costs and taxes. Compounding at a tax free rate is unbeatable.

Rule of thumb on stock allocation is 100 less your age. So if you are 30 then you should be 70% stocks, 30% bonds.

Priorities if I were you.
1. max out 401k. Tax benefit is too great to ignore. Invest in S&P and do not even bother to look at statement.
2. same as above but Roth IRA instead of 401k.
3. same as above but IRA.
4. same as above but HSA. (these have same tax advantage as others but you can use for health expenditure which will be critical when you are retired).

If you want to make money, ignore anyone that talks up stock picks. I will bet any amount of money that they will underperform a buy and hold index strategy over any 10 year period. It might be entertaining to talk stocks but is a terrible approach to investing. I am a professional portfolio manager BTW.

Edit: all of above applies to house flippers. One of my firms investments is providing short term loans to house flippers. We have lent >$500m in the last 5 years. Return on equity of the guys we are lending to is <10% right now. That is a terrible return when you consider all the transaction fees, taxes, illiquidity and risk. I would bet that none of them netted more than 15% after fees and taxes even in the best of times.

I agree with you, I have both 401 and roth (plus the stocks). maybe dump 50g in the 401 and 20g in the roth. gotta save some money for a vette deposit LOL
 

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Flipping houses LOL.

Not a chance unless you’re very experienced in construction management and have a well trusted team of subs. When I get a call/email from a flipper I can’t tell them to pound sand fast enough.


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you can put it under contract and sell to the flipper ...wholesale
 

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you can put it under contract and sell to the flipper ...wholesale

Where are you hearing of these wholesale real estate deals?

Not a single developer I know of would ever purchase this way.

Anyone who is actually successful in “flipping” houses has a rolodex of contacts for buying property long before a realtor or broker has their useless hands on it.


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Where are you hearing of these wholesale real estate deals?

Not a single developer I know of would ever purchase this way.

Anyone who is actually successful in “flipping” houses has a rolodex of contacts for buying property long before a realtor or broker has their useless hands on it.


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jesus christ why so bitter on the flippers and realtors LOL...bad experience?

I know plenty of people doing this shit and making GOOD money. and no I'm not saying it's easy. I've been selling my entire life so I think real estate could really be my cup of beer. =)
 

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If your financial advisor isn't less than ~35years old, retired with a multi million dollar house, he's not good at what he does and he's swindling you one way or another.

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As a 39 year old financial advisor (not retired) with a $xmm house... My tip is to remember we're in a decade long year bull market. Everyone thinks they're smart when stocks have basically gone up every year except 2 in 11 years..

That's my tip for the day.

Everyone in 2000 thought they were smart with 100% of their 401k in QQQ.

ETA: financial advising is so much more than just picking a stock or mutual fund or whatever. Planning your legacy, planning your financial life, generally has little to do with "beating the market."

Think of Treynor's car goals compared to yours. That's the world I live in.
 
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