First stock customer owned demon to beat Dodges 9.65

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I guess ur right if ur comparing them side by side at a race but how long can u make that argument for? Eventually over time the stock tires will no longer be available for purchase. What do these side by side cars do then?

le'ts look at those $500k restoration jobs that people do for older muscle cars. None of them will have the original tires but they are sold as original due to the parts used to restore it. I have never heard of anyone stating that they want 50 year old tires on their brand new $500k car. Maybe if it was a show piece and never to see the road I guess but thats not many.

Tires are not factory parts. They have an expiration date and get recycled just as oil does. If I put Ligui-Molly in my motor vs. the factory oil does that make my car no longer stock? It's supposed to be a performance upgrade to ur engine. Doubt it does anything but it's not stock.

Tires are only good for a couple of years before they go out of date. No one can go to Chrysler and say "I want to oder some factory tires for my 1970 Cuda". They don't exist cause tires are not factory parts. Every manufacture uses another company for tires on all of their cars.

Newer technology and newer materials will always be coming out to replace the old tire and it won't have the same name nor will it be the same product so IMO tires are not factory parts and changing them doesn't make ur car no longer stock.

you make very good points.

But when comparing 2 new vehicles, you compare them using the products they came with.


If you allow a “change” on one, then you must allow a change in the other. It opens up Pandora’s box.
 

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i was under the impression the ford racing supercharger voids OEM powertrain warranty. Maybe @13COBRA can help with this side of the argument.

Do you retain full Ford Warranties if you have a ford dealership install the ford racing superchargers? Or does it void your powertrain warranty only?

Depends on which one.
 

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My brother had the Ford Performance Roush S/C installed on his '18 F-150 by the dealer. Here's what they told him:

The original vehicle warranty is still in place. EXCEPT ON PARTS WHOSE FAILURE CAN BE IN ANY WAY ATTRIBUTED TO THE SUPERCHARGER!

So, if your power seat motor goes within the 5 year warranty period, it gets fixed on factory warranty.

Pretty much any moving part failure will be blamed on the increased torque and power and will not come under the factory warranty any longer. It will fall under the separate warranty that comes with the supercharger kit. This is an aftermarket warranty. Whipple has them, as does Roush and perhaps others. My brother got 36 months while my Mustang FRPP kit ('14) at the time got only a single year of coverage.

Some dealers apparently will be better than others at trying to stick Ford with warranty work and might claim it's still a 'full factory warranty'. But, in cases of big dollar failures, the head office will look into it, check ECU records, etc to see if it was altered. Then, of course, Ford head office will deny, deny, deny. The dealer is not offering the warranty. They will try to make it sound like they get to choose, but don't believe it.

So yes, you still have a 'full warranty', but it now excludes any items that are subject to additional conditions from when the vehicle was stock. You now have two separate warranties on one vehicle. Heaven help you if both try to claim it was covered by the other and is not their problem.
 

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I was under the impression it reduces your powertrain warranty to 3/36,000.
I'm considering an F150 and do leases for work, so the FRPP Roush SC and powertrain warranty is important to this discussion.
-J
 

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My brother had the Ford Performance Roush S/C installed on his '18 F-150 by the dealer. Here's what they told him:

The original vehicle warranty is still in place. EXCEPT ON PARTS WHOSE FAILURE CAN BE IN ANY WAY ATTRIBUTED TO THE SUPERCHARGER!

So, if your power seat motor goes within the 5 year warranty period, it gets fixed on factory warranty.

Pretty much any moving part failure will be blamed on the increased torque and power and will not come under the factory warranty any longer. It will fall under the separate warranty that comes with the supercharger kit. This is an aftermarket warranty. Whipple has them, as does Roush and perhaps others. My brother got 36 months while my Mustang FRPP kit ('14) at the time got only a single year of coverage.

Some dealers apparently will be better than others at trying to stick Ford with warranty work and might claim it's still a 'full factory warranty'. But, in cases of big dollar failures, the head office will look into it, check ECU records, etc to see if it was altered. Then, of course, Ford head office will deny, deny, deny. The dealer is not offering the warranty. They will try to make it sound like they get to choose, but don't believe it.

So yes, you still have a 'full warranty', but it now excludes any items that are subject to additional conditions from when the vehicle was stock. You now have two separate warranties on one vehicle. Heaven help you if both try to claim it was covered by the other and is not their problem.

Exactly


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Right. I’m pretty sure he only speaks Democrat. Could be why he isn’t able to pick up what we’re putting down.


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I do love me some ON D BIT... He is a pretty good sport about his dumb.

ON D, get in here and entertain us some mo.
 

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Jesus, 300+ posts in this thread. This is nearly as entertaining as the C8 threads lmao
Almost as fun as fender flares making this truck a “wide body”
 

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Jesus, 300+ posts in this thread. This is nearly as entertaining as the C8 threads lmao

Pretty much every thread on here converges to a debate about demon crate being stock. It is like 7 degrees of separation from Kevin Bacon.

Try it
Q. Should Trump be impeached?
A. Demon crate not stock.

Q. Should I run e85?
A. Demon crate stock.

Q. What drag radials should I get?
A. Demon crate not stock.

Q. VMP, Whipple, Kenne Bell?
A. Demon crate stock.
 

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Pretty much every thread on here converges to a debate about demon crate being stock. It is like 7 degrees of separation from Kevin Bacon.

Try it
Q. Should Trump be impeached?
A. Demon crate not stock.

Q. Should I run e85?
A. Demon crate stock.

Q. What drag radials should I get?
A. Demon crate not stock.

Q. VMP, Whipple, Kenne Bell?
A. Demon crate stock.

Not stock, just saying
 

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