Megasquirt MS3 Pro Plug and Play to be released soon.

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To follow up on the reverse lockout. I explained to DIY how it works and they're going to look into a fix and make the reverse lockout functional. In the mean time you can take one of the high current outputs on the optional 26 pin port and make it activate when mph < 5.
 

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To follow up on the reverse lockout. I explained to DIY how it works and they're going to look into a fix and make the reverse lockout functional. In the mean time you can take one of the high current outputs on the optional 26 pin port and make it activate when mph < 5.

I wonder if their fix would be doable on the non terminator cobras/Machs megasquirt unit (I know I would need a terminator trans harness). If they did I could get rid of my reverse lockout box
 

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I wonder if their fix would be doable on the non terminator cobras/Machs megasquirt unit (I know I would need a terminator trans harness). If they did I could get rid of my reverse lockout box

Like I mentioned you can make your own fix really easily. Just use one of the outputs of your MS3 to activate the reverse lock out solenoid and open it up. Program it so that if VSS is less than 5 mph its open. That way as soon as you get going and mph is greater than 5 it turns off power to the solenoid effectively locking out reverse again.
 

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I wonder if their fix would be doable on the non terminator cobras/Machs megasquirt unit (I know I would need a terminator trans harness). If they did I could get rid of my reverse lockout box

Why do you want to get rid of the RLO? Just curious.


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Like I mentioned you can make your own fix really easily. Just use one of the outputs of your MS3 to activate the reverse lock out solenoid and open it up. Program it so that if VSS is less than 5 mph its open. That way as soon as you get going and mph is greater than 5 it turns off power to the solenoid effectively locking out reverse again.

no concerns about burning that thing being active any time you're at a light, car is just idling...etc? The aftermarket boxes and I believe the factory logic are under X mph and foot on the brake

Why do you want to get rid of the RLO? Just curious.


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I have a Mach1 and put a T56 in it, theres no provision for the factory reverse lockout function. I bought a little reverse lockout computer and wired it in to make the reverse lockout function work like OEM. Im just saying if I do get the MS3 setup and it can control the reverse lockout function I can take this extra box out of the equation and sell it
 

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no concerns about burning that thing being active any time you're at a light, car is just idling...etc? The aftermarket boxes and I believe the factory logic are under X mph and foot on the brake



I have a Mach1 and put a T56 in it, theres no provision for the factory reverse lockout function. I bought a little reverse lockout computer and wired it in to make the reverse lockout function work like OEM. Im just saying if I do get the MS3 setup and it can control the reverse lockout function I can take this extra box out of the equation and sell it

You could use a relay that is activated by the brake switch to only allow power from the ms3 to pass when your foot is on the brake.
 

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no concerns about burning that thing being active any time you're at a light, car is just idling...etc? The aftermarket boxes and I believe the factory logic are under X mph and foot on the brake

Not true. Stock you simply turn the key on, don't even have to start the engine and the reverse lockout solenoid is activated and you can easily and freely put it in and out of reverse. No brake pedal required either. The only time it deactivates the solenoid is when your vehicle is moving more than X mph.
 

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Good info Malcolm! We were doing the piston 1 to TDC and then marking the damper and go from there. We did it on the spare engine and began on the engine in the car but did not finish because of the holidays.

Do you know anything about the issue slo984now is having with the Reverse lock out?
I contacted DIY and they told me the MS3 doesn't activate the solenoid as Malcolm mentioned. I did wonder if it would be possible to use an output like Malcolm mentioned. But I'm too concerned with getting the car running and driveable first.

The list keeps getting longer.
 

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To follow up on the reverse lockout. I explained to DIY how it works and they're going to look into a fix and make the reverse lockout functional. In the mean time you can take one of the high current outputs on the optional 26 pin port and make it activate when mph < 5.

Thanks Malcolm!

I contacted DIY and they told me the MS3 doesn't activate the solenoid as Malcolm mentioned. I did wonder if it would be possible to use an output like Malcolm mentioned. But I'm too concerned with getting the car running and driveable first.

The list keeps getting longer.

I hear ya! I contacted Ben, the lead engineer on the Cobra PnP, and asked him about the reverse lockout and the fact we no longer have IAT1 sensor. I did not realize both of yall already have contacted them.
 

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It would be nice to start compiling a list of the features that are lost with the Cobra MS3PRO PnP. Regardless of how small they seem.
So far from what’s been posted we’ve lost:
-Cruise Control
-Reverse lockout
-IAT 1
I’m sure there are more that will pop up, but are there anymore that anyone has noticed or read up on?
Thanks
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It would be nice to start compiling a list of the features that are lost with the Cobra MS3PRO PnP. Regardless of how small they seem.
So far from what’s been posted we’ve lost:
-Cruise Control
-Reverse lockout
-IAT 1
I’m sure there are more that will pop up, but are there anymore that anyone has noticed or read up on?
Thanks
Ken

What made cruise stop working? I didn't think it did much of anything with the stock ECU? I'd go test it but I removed cruise from my car years ago. Just extra dead weight that's never used.

IAT1 is just ambient air and of no use to you tuning. There would be no need for any stand alone to include it. That said you can easily add a temp sensor for ambient air and feed it into MS3. In fact I added oil temp, trunk mount IC fluid temp etc.

The big one you're missing on your list is emissions. None of the stand alone ECUs out there support emissions that I know of. If your vehicle needs emissions you're better off with a stock ECU or at least keeping the stock ECU and piggy backing it with a stand alone.
 

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What made cruise stop working? I didn't think it did much of anything with the stock ECU? I'd go test it but I removed cruise from my car years ago. Just extra dead weight that's never used.

IAT1 is just ambient air and of no use to you tuning. There would be no need for any stand alone to include it. That said you can easily add a temp sensor for ambient air and feed it into MS3. In fact I added oil temp, trunk mount IC fluid temp etc.

The big one you're missing on your list is emissions. None of the stand alone ECUs out there support emissions that I know of. If your vehicle needs emissions you're better off with a stock ECU or at least keeping the stock ECU and piggy backing it with a stand alone.


I didn't think of Emissions. I have not had any since 2005. The only reason I use IAT1 is to make sure if I have high temps that I am not sucking in hot air when I first design a new CAI. I have run 6 or 7 ones over the years so I always like to test. I don't use Cruise control so I have not personally tested it.
 

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Thanks Malcolm!



I hear ya! I contacted Ben, the lead engineer on the Cobra PnP, and asked him about the reverse lockout and the fact we no longer have IAT1 sensor. I did not realize both of yall already have contacted them.

I've been emailing with Matt off and on. You couldn't be the only one I bugged about this stuff.

I knew the emissions was going away and I have a couple plans to handle that.
 

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I've been emailing with Matt off and on. You couldn't be the only one I bugged about this stuff.

I knew the emissions was going away and I have a couple plans to handle that.


Haha I went to Ben because I felt my Quote for questions to Matt had met it's quote for the time being. I figure if I bounce between Matt, Ben, Ed, and StangNet I will not get on too many peoples nerves.
 

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Haha I went to Ben because I felt my Quote for questions to Matt had met it's quote for the time being. I figure if I bounce between Matt, Ben, Ed, and StangNet I will not get on too many peoples nerves.
I was initially going with Ben but I think he got over talking to me and passed me on to Matt. Stangnet is a good one too. The videos are really helpful.
 

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I was initially going with Ben but I think he got over talking to me and passed me on to Matt. Stangnet is a good one too. The videos are really helpful.

Ya I think Ben is development and Matt is Tech support as I had been handed off to Matt a few times. My questions as to why it was developed that way have been answered by Ben and the ones about I need to select the right tabs and input correct info have been answered by Matt. Matt also is the one that has been helping me on the Facebook page.
 

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Ya I think Ben is development and Matt is Tech support as I had been handed off to Matt a few times. My questions as to why it was developed that way have been answered by Ben and the ones about I need to select the right tabs and input correct info have been answered by Matt. Matt also is the one that has been helping me on the Facebook page.
I was looking through my emails earlier and it was Eddie I was talking to initially.

I'm sure I've made Matt scratch his head more than once with my questions.
 

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Losing cruise control was discussed and confirmed by Ed over on modfords. I’m not exactly sure of the how or why without going back and looking it up but it is not supported with the PnP and no longer functions with it.
 

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Losing cruise control was discussed and confirmed by Ed over on modfords. I’m not exactly sure of the how or why without going back and looking it up but it is not supported with the PnP and no longer functions with it.
Well that sucks. I use my cruise control a lot.
 

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Well that sucks. I use my cruise control a lot.
So do I!
There are aftermarket cruise control kits that can be used but if I go that route I would like to find a way to use the factory cruise control buttons to operate it. I don’t like the idea of adding extra ones when the factory ones are right there.
 

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