No, they dont. Ford is making it easy for me to try out the new Vette as my next purchase.
I'll hold onto my 13 GT500 though but it will be the last one I own.
Anyone else frustrated with Ford over the next GT500?
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I'll hold onto my 13 GT500 though but it will be the last one I own.
Tob I don’t really see an issue with the letter. It’s telling dealers that the CFTP has to be restricted and that dealers who are submitting orders without a ‘golden ticket’ BS are out of luck. Then it says no allocations will be available and that the 500 will take a winter break.
None of that is shocking.
I’m content in a second year car and realizing I won’t have one for next April, but I’m ok with that.
Its just making everyone work harder for a CFTP car if you want one, much like early 350Rs.
-J
I agree with what you are saying. However, the fact that there is a commodity restriction on CFTP to begin with is garbage. Ford has been doing this with every one of their FP lineup vehicles.
So you think restricting cars because CF wheels and wings are truly restricted commodities is an issue?
-J
I don't have issue with the letter. I understand it but recognized immediately that it wasn't as clear as it should have been. You should carefully review a letter like this and eliminate the potential for it to be misunderstood. So when you see a comment such as this...
"I’m confused...so my CFTP that I have on order isn’t getting built?!?!?"
...you can see why some may interpret it as such. That's all.
I’m saying they are not truly restricted and that Ford artificially restricts it.
Create a demand before having the supply, brilliant.
I don’t know why Ford plays this game.
And I don’t know why I always bend and buy one anyways
I truly hope those who ordered cftp cars will actually utilize them rather than become cars and coffee fixtures. If I did not live in a 4 season state, I would be going bananas which would push me to the Chevrolet dealers.
Cmon Ford! Fire up the production line.
I don’t know why Ford plays this game.
And I don’t know why I always bend and buy one anyways
I truly hope those who ordered cftp cars will actually utilize them rather than become cars and coffee fixtures. If I did not live in a 4 season state, I would be going bananas which would push me to the Chevrolet dealers.
Cmon Ford! Fire up the production line.
AMEN!
Didn’t someone say they were waiting for more to be produced so they could ship a bunch out at once?
production is being stopped until after the holidays soon, isn’t that going to slow down the shipments possibly?
I agree, I should hope 5 years after the debut of the "R" that they could buy as many wheels and wings as they want to. Seems like it's plenty of time to ramp up production. I know it's CFR not Ford making the wheels, but 5 years is more than we were in WW2, and look how many bombers came out of Willow Run.
I just talked to Noah at FP, and he said production stops mid December but didn't have an exact date. Mine updated again to be a build day of 12/11 and he said the stopping production is after that. He also mentioned that they are holding until they have enough units before shipping. They won't ship 1 to California then ship another separately to Colorado as an example he said.
There is a major downside to ordering more wheels than you need at the moment. Say you have decided to build 1275 CFTP cars, 5100 wheels and you order that many wheels and put them in storage for future use, then discover that there is an unforeseen problem with the wheels. What are you going to do with the remaining wheels in the warehouse?
That would be plausible if they only shipped GT500's by themselves, but the truth is, the GT500 is a Mustang and the plant is capable of producing 1 Mustang a minute, if that's the case, there should be no shortage of Mustangs ready for shipping. Remember the GT500 is the only model that is being delayed due to ongoing quality updates, all the other models are being shipped.
I think there are two different production processes for the Ford GT wheels and for the GT500 wheels. The GT500 and 350R wheels are not auto-claved but UV light-cured which is why they've mentioned them needing to be coated with UV resistant paints or epoxies (don't remember what they switched to). If they get over-exposed to UV they'll get brittle. Not sure about the exact process but I'd imagine they're dramatically less time-intensive. Not sure why CR can't cure more wheels at a time. Ford's exclusive contract will expire at some point and then GM will throw them on the Vette. Clearly we were hoping they would be able to dramatically scale-up production capacity.
How else do they produce CFTP cars then? It is not like the car is on the line and then they order the wheels and other carbon bits. At some point in time there are parts in a warehouse waiting to be placed on a vehicle. But you hit the real reason why there are these commodity restrictions; Ford predetermines the number of vehicles they are willing to produce with specific items. That coupled along with their allocation system makes it a huge cluster **** for the customer.
You seem to forget, the GT350, GT350R and GT500 are halo cars, by definition they are limited production cars.
"A halo vehicle (or halo model) in automobile marketing is one designed and marketed to showcase the talents and resources of the manufacturers and to promote sales of other vehicles within a marque. Car companies often design a special vehicle, usually a luxury or sports model, with the hope that customers will come to dealerships to see it, but will buy other more practical vehicles instead."
"In the automotive industry, exotic, limited production luxury models or low-volume sports cars made by a manufacturer's racing, motorsports, or in-house modification teams, are sometimes referred to as "halo cars" for the effect they produce on selling other vehicles within the make."
"A halo vehicle (or halo model) in automobile marketing is one designed and marketed to showcase the talents and resources of the manufacturers and to promote sales of other vehicles within a marque. Car companies often design a special vehicle, usually a luxury or sports model, with the hope that customers will come to dealerships to see it, but will buy other more practical vehicles instead."
"In the automotive industry, exotic, limited production luxury models or low-volume sports cars made by a manufacturer's racing, motorsports, or in-house modification teams, are sometimes referred to as "halo cars" for the effect they produce on selling other vehicles within the make."
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This has been gone over before. They are not limited production. Except for the first year of the GT350/R. There is a huge difference between only being able to produce X amount and saying you plan to only produce Y because of whatever reason. The Ford GT was limited production, the GT500 is not. By making only certain options limited production within a trim line is a huge dick move by Ford that they have been doing for some time now.
When Ford says they are limiting production to 5000 cars, how is that not limited production?
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When did Ford announce that? That info coming from an "inside source" does not constitute limited production vehicle.
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