The Complicated Calculus - Selling Your Car For The GT500

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Last quarter saw sales of manual transmission cars fall to just 1%..... Let that sink in.... the manual transmission is going away for ever maybe... I understand why 100%. But IMO I don’t think for my toy I would be happy with either a new C8 or GT500 without a manual trans. Am I a dying breed, probably... but I know I’m not alone. I’ve been leaning to spending my money on something with more driver involvement and that may mean not nearly as much power. One thing my 13 Boss taught me was having the 662 hp in the GT500 didn’t make it more fun to drive.
I realize comparing the 760hp GT500 to the 526hp GT350R sees crazy at close to the same money, but IMO the R would get the nod. Owning a performance car is as much about how it makes you feel as it is what the car can do. I think in time we will see manufacturers realizing this. Like Porsche, they too will eventually offer performance cars with more analog controls and manual trans... but time will tell.
 
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Last quarter saw sales of manual transmission cars fall to just below 1%..... Let that sink in.... the manual transmission is going away for ever maybe... I understand why 100%. But IMO I don’t think for my toy I would be happy with either a new C8 or GT500 without a manual trans. Am I a dying breed, probably... but I know I’m not alone. I’ve been leaning to spending my money on something with more driver involvement and that may mean not nearly as much power. One thing my 13 Boss taught me was having the 662 hp in the GT500 didn’t make it more fun to drive.
I realize comparing the 760hp GT500 to the 526hp GT350R sees crazy at close to the same money, but IMO the R would get the nod. Owning a performance car is as much about how it makes you feel as it is what the car can do. I think in time we will see manufacturers realizing this. Like Porsche, they too will eventually offer performance cars with more analog controls and manual trans... but time will tell.
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Porsche learned that lesson & made corrections in the 2018 MY line-up..
 

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Last quarter saw sales of manual transmission cars fall to just below 1%..... Let that sink in.... the manual transmission is going away for ever maybe...

For what type(s) of car and where did you read that?
 

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Porsche learned that lesson & made corrections in the 2018 MY line-up..

it comes at a price as you have to step up to the S version but yes it’s nice to see they will offer it. Frankly for a street car the numbers on the 992 look impressive
 

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Last quarter saw sales of manual transmission cars fall to just below 1%..... Let that sink in.... the manual transmission is going away for ever maybe... I understand why 100%. But IMO I don’t think for my toy I would be happy with either a new C8 or GT500 without a manual trans. Am I a dying breed, probably... but I know I’m not alone. I’ve been leaning to spending my money on something with more driver involvement and that may mean not nearly as much power. One thing my 13 Boss taught me was having the 662 hp in the GT500 didn’t make it more fun to drive.
I realize comparing the 760hp GT500 to the 526hp GT350R sees crazy at close to the same money, but IMO the R would get the nod. Owning a performance car is as much about how it makes you feel as it is what the car can do. I think in time we will see manufacturers realizing this. Like Porsche, they too will eventually offer performance cars with more analog controls and manual trans... but time will tell.

Is that 1% of all vehicle sales? Or is that less than 1% stat only including vehicles that offer a manual option?
 

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Interesting Car and Driver article. Electric cars have recently surpassed manual trans cars in sales. But manuals are still holding in there at about 1.1% of total sales.

My three daughters own and drive manuals. They have had to teach their boyfriends how to drive them so they can take them on long trips. I didn't comment on their boyfriends gender identity.....but I might have thunk it. Not that there's anything wrong with that.

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The 1% number is for all vehicles sold last 1/4...
 

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Idk what reference 1% is to mustang sales; but ford would be well to do by ditching the POS MT82 to boost some sales. I’ve not known one car locally since 2011 that hasn’t had failures at very low miles. It’s literally what put another friend in a GT350 vs the PP 18 GT with a manual
 

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what are the exact differences supposedly ?

How so? Heads? Cams? Compression ratio?

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One item in specific is the oil passages. Higher achievable and sustainable G loads from the SC2 tire and aero require a greater ability to adequately move oil through the head and block. There are some other nuggets too. The different part numbers on the engines was not a typo.
 

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Please keep going....I had no idea and am very interested in the differences.

One item in specific is the oil passages. Higher achievable and sustainable G loads from the SC2 tire and aero require a greater ability to adequately move oil through the head and block. There are some other nuggets too. The different part numbers on the engines was not a typo.
 

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I’m pretty sure I read somewhere that the 350R also has heavier duty timing chains. I’d say as a whole the engines are very similar with a little more durability features built into the R since it’s intended use is primarily track focused versus street driven.


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One item in specific is the oil passages. Higher achievable and sustainable G loads from the SC2 tire and aero require a greater ability to adequately move oil through the head and block. There are some other nuggets too. The different part numbers on the engines was not a typo.
Considering the oil is pressurized it doesn't make any sense to me that they would re-engineer oil passages on a car that pulls like .2 G higher. Especially when they know for fact that people will throw cup 2's on the non R
 

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