Any proof of better heads? The 2020 is going to crush the 2014 for various reasons mod for mod in power, mph, and et. However I am not sold on the 5.2 being better than the 5.8 once they are past the bolton mod level.
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And why is that? Are you talking max effort?
Obviously that changes the conversation but almost no one builds a max effort car and still drives it to cars and coffee on Saturday.
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Yup that's what I do, I buy VP MS100 fuel in 5 gallon pails, usually 2 at a time. If I buy some ID1050S I'm going to try our E85 (E54) and see how the car runs.
No not max effort track only stuff. Just solid street/strip builds like my car, Lund’s car etc... I am curious if the 5.2 is capable of 1300 with a street/strip 2650 combo since I know the 5.8 is.
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Huh? Not in stock form it sure as hell isnt lol.
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Who said stock? Lrn2read
I remember reading the heads on the 5.2L predator motor are CNC ports 5.2L voodoo motor heads. With all the engineering that went into the development of the 5.2L heads I'm going to guess they flow more than 5.8L heads.
Mod for mod I think the 5.2L and 5.8L motors will be close but think the 5.2L will respond a little better with slightly higher HP numbers. HOWEVER I think the 5.8L will beat the 5.2L all day long in torque output and torque is what gets you moving.
Mod for mod I think the 5.2L and 5.8L motors will be close but think the 5.2L will respond a little better with slightly higher HP numbers. HOWEVER I think the 5.8L will beat the 5.2L all day long in torque output and torque is what gets you moving.
Ported 5.4/5.8 heads with the right porting package will outflow the Voodoo casting.
The Ford GT/GT500 head casting is still the only Modular casting that has been proven to approach 400/350 @ 28” on a 3.552” bore plate.
A CNC ported Ford GT casting flows what a Voodoo does even when retaining the smaller diameter stock valves. It’s not hard to figure out which casting has more physical potential.
GT heads destroy Gen 1/Boss heads on the basis of casting potential.
NVM.. i can see this is difficult for you....Why on earth would anyone compare max effort builds?
In that case, I could build a 1995 4 banger mitsubishi for 1/10 the price and crush anything a trinity car could come up with.
Nonsensical point is nonsense.
I said nothing about max effort builds. Just average builds that people do once bolton combos get boring or they break something. Again lrn2read.
You couldn't
In that case, 2020 car wins 10/10 times.
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My post retained accuracy, and in this instance so did yours. Congrats.
I would not be so sure.
Well the 2020 has Been 10.61. Whats the Trinitys best stock run?
Lets also not forget the purpose of this car was more than just HP and straight line performance. This thing will eat ZL1's and Porsches at the road course.
Lets also not forget the purpose of this car was more than just HP and straight line performance. This thing will eat ZL1's and Porsches at the road course.
There's little doubt it will be a great car, but I'm always skeptical when "private test" results are cited as gospel. Most articles I've seen claim 0-60MPH in the low 3-second range and 1/4-mile in the high 10-second range. Indeed, most of the passes in the associated video show roughly 10.9 seconds at about 130MPH - which is certainly respectable. Somehow, though, they achieved 10.6 seconds @ 133MPH in a "private test"? Maybe, but I'd like to see it replicated/confirmed in a less "private" setting.
The one Achilles heel of the Trinity that always stuck out in my mind were those powdered metal rods. With elevated power levels micro-fractures start to form and as they continue to grow over time you have an invisible cancer. Also the oil pump gears are a weak point.
I've been wrestling with this question myself as within the next 12 months I'll be in the market for a GT500 again. The 13-14 will always be special.
I've debated whether to get a 13-14 and have it trailered immediately to Livernois for rods, pistons, head work, oil pump gears, and cams or getting a '21 GT500 base car with Recaros.
I don't agree that the DCT transmission will be problematic or have durability issues. Tremec developed it years ago and on this forum we even discussed the possibility it could be in the GT350 or a new GT500 back in 2014. I'm sure they've done quite a bit of durability testing on it. I don't think it will be anywhere close to mod-tolerant as the TR-6060s or 6070s but I don't think they'll easily break either.
The things that tip me towards the 2020+ cars are the IRS, mag shocks, wider wheels, forged rods, VCT, 16.5/14" brakes.
I've been wrestling with this question myself as within the next 12 months I'll be in the market for a GT500 again. The 13-14 will always be special.
I've debated whether to get a 13-14 and have it trailered immediately to Livernois for rods, pistons, head work, oil pump gears, and cams or getting a '21 GT500 base car with Recaros.
I don't agree that the DCT transmission will be problematic or have durability issues. Tremec developed it years ago and on this forum we even discussed the possibility it could be in the GT350 or a new GT500 back in 2014. I'm sure they've done quite a bit of durability testing on it. I don't think it will be anywhere close to mod-tolerant as the TR-6060s or 6070s but I don't think they'll easily break either.
The things that tip me towards the 2020+ cars are the IRS, mag shocks, wider wheels, forged rods, VCT, 16.5/14" brakes.
Forgot to list the cons of the 2020 cars: no stick option, no glass roof option, tough to get one with no ADM (I've got 2 dealers that will sell me at sticker), weight (though it's not as bad when all upgrades are considered)
My biggest concern with the '20 GT500 is simply unproven time.
The GT350 should be a big warning to anyone wanting to run into a new model.
While a fun car and arguably one of the best to drive, it seems to already cement a reputation of huge failures.
The '13/'14 GT500 def have failures- but they come after you start making 800+ wheel which is beyond impressive in and of itself.
Time will tell which is king, but as one right now we're comparing a proven motor vs unproven.
The GT350 should be a big warning to anyone wanting to run into a new model.
While a fun car and arguably one of the best to drive, it seems to already cement a reputation of huge failures.
The '13/'14 GT500 def have failures- but they come after you start making 800+ wheel which is beyond impressive in and of itself.
Time will tell which is king, but as one right now we're comparing a proven motor vs unproven.
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