Thinking about a Mclaren MP412C...please don't hate...lol

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That mclaren looks dated, Id rather have a Mercedes SLS. Doors go up on those too, and the value isnt plummeting like a older mclaren.

*edit, shit nvm, you already have a GTS.
Im wondering you you skipped over the SLS, it IS older, but the gullwing doors bro!!!
 

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5k on a McLaren is like 300k on a normal car. My father bought one with 2k on it. It has 3 or 4k on it now (it's in the shop right now so I cant go into the garage and look) but there have been a bevy of problems:
- Both AC control LCD screens went out.....$2,500 each (we're going to fix them ourselves)
- oil pan leak.....some ungodly amount of money to fix
- tire faults left and right
- the air brake threw a fault and quit working
- it can't handle the AZ heat and pulls timing or something and falls flat on its iace when it's heat soaked
- there is some weird intermittent power loss in the high rpm band. I'm the only one that's feel it and I'm scared I'm going to pop the engine every time.
- the DCT acts up intermittently when you shift manually.
- the lower ducts keep falling off. They're really expensive and we're leaving them off
- airbag recall

Aside from the LCD screens I don't know what everything will cost but I'll find out tomorrow when we pick it up.

It's not my car but it's in my garage and I put half of the miles on it so here's my take: it's a bitchin car that's fun to drive. It's really raw and visceral and everything you've read about it being bland and boring is wrong. Also, get the spider, don't ask questions, just do it. The cost of any scratch, scrape, ding, or engine light is stupid expensive A local guy got a low mph fender scrape in the parking lot and it cost him $30k to fix. Basically every time you start the thing you hemorhage money and it's not like you can go to Auto Zone and repair it yourself. Its something you have to prepare for.

If you're ok with the cost of ownership, go for it. Honestly, a shifter kart is way more fun to drive and has a similar powerband feel. I tell people who drive it that they now have an idea of what my karts feel like just without the mind bending brakes and half the lateral G's. Keep in mind we were VERY close to a 12c's times at Leguna Seca and it was the worst possible weather to race in (freezing cold, high winds, and rain). Something to think about if you get cold feet....or get both. Shifter karts aren't expensive.

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Ok gang...I have an opportunity to trade both my benzes in and get a super mint, low mileage 2013 Mclaren Mp412c. Only 5k on it. Car would come with a warranty. The sticker on the Mclaren was over 300K and the dealer is selling it for 114k. Crazy...haha. Link...

2013 McLaren MP4-12C Base

This will be my last opportunity to get an exotic before the new tax law our great governor put into effect begins Jan 1 (after that there will be a cap on trade in tax allowance)

Also, I wont be spending my winters here much longer and will not need a daily driver. So my plan is to have an exotic that I will only drive on perfect days and have a beater for me otherwise...

Does anyone know the reliability on the older Mclaren? I was on the forum and it seems dam good but if something does go wrong there is a long wait on parts.

Please don't hate...I love both my benzes, but to me the mclaren in on another level and for the price I feel like I am getting a very special car at a fraction of the cost.

Thoughts!???
I think you go through cars like I used to go through women. Go for it.
 

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lololol...man oh man...you guys always deliver...I have been spending time on the mclaren forum and from what they are telling me the reliability is excellent...known issues on the car that will always be solved under original warranty.

i found out the car has fabspeed exhaust and stage 1 tune as well...and a passport built in with radar jammer.

i will be making my decision today. thanks for everything so far!
 

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5k on a McLaren is like 300k on a normal car. My father bought one with 2k on it. It has 3 or 4k on it now (it's in the shop right now so I cant go into the garage and look) but there have been a bevy of problems:
- Both AC control LCD screens went out.....$2,500 each (we're going to fix them ourselves)
- oil pan leak.....some ungodly amount of money to fix
- tire faults left and right
- the air brake threw a fault and quit working
- it can't handle the AZ heat and pulls timing or something and falls flat on its iace when it's heat soaked
- there is some weird intermittent power loss in the high rpm band. I'm the only one that's feel it and I'm scared I'm going to pop the engine every time.
- the DCT acts up intermittently when you shift manually.
- the lower ducts keep falling off. They're really expensive and we're leaving them off
- airbag recall

Aside from the LCD screens I don't know what everything will cost but I'll find out tomorrow when we pick it up.

It's not my car but it's in my garage and I put half of the miles on it so here's my take: it's a bitchin car that's fun to drive. It's really raw and visceral and everything you've read about it being bland and boring is wrong. Also, get the spider, don't ask questions, just do it. The cost of any scratch, scrape, ding, or engine light is stupid expensive A local guy got a low mph fender scrape in the parking lot and it cost him $30k to fix. Basically every time you start the thing you hemorhage money and it's not like you can go to Auto Zone and repair it yourself. Its something you have to prepare for.

If you're ok with the cost of ownership, go for it. Honestly, a shifter kart is way more fun to drive and has a similar powerband feel. I tell people who drive it that they now have an idea of what my karts feel like just without the mind bending brakes and half the lateral G's. Keep in mind we were VERY close to a 12c's times at Leguna Seca and it was the worst possible weather to race in (freezing cold, high winds, and rain). Something to think about if you get cold feet....or get both. Shifter karts aren't expensive.

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My dad has a 650S. There's a reason an extended service contract is $5k a year.

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OP should Montana it. ;)
I bet Illinois is like California and they check for people who Montana it.

How can Illinois cap the trade in tax? You've already been taxed on something once, then they can tax you again on it. I just looked it up, and the cap is at $10,000. That hits everyone.
 

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My dad has a 650S. There's a reason an extended service contract is $5k a year.

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I've been looking at 12C's as well and just started considering the 650's but spending 10K a year on Maintenance, warranty, and increased insurance really has me thinking twice. Audi R8's looking real good right about now.
 

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I've been looking at 12C's as well and just started considering the 650's but spending 10K a year on Maintenance, warranty, and increased insurance really has me thinking twice. Audi R8's looking real good right about now.

Exactly.

I told my dad I would think with fast domestics...a lot cheaper to own haha
 

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there are myths of unreliability caused by a small number of horror stories that spike and stay visible over the years and then there are cars that are filled to the gills with technology that makes them predisposed to constantly have something failing.
I'm not in the market for nor have I ever owned the car in question but as a guy who builds software for a living and cars for fun I can see exactly why this vehicle would have so many justifiable complaints regarding it.

but on the flip side its a mclaren and looks killer.

I'm a bang for the buck guy. lets say you get a screamin deal for 100K even on a low mileagel mp4. if you spend 30K over the next few years maintaining the thing and its always in the shop what are you really profiting? gallardos are dope. 430's are badass. 360's are dirt cheap for what you get. R8's are classy as all hell and german so you know they're solid.

all of which are around or cheaper than the MCLAREN and you'll be able to enjoy em while spending less or the same (worse case scenario).

or wait like five minutes, buy the new Z06, and enjoy what is probably going to be an absolute unit of a car.
 

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15 minutes of research and it's easy to see why these cars are so cheap. Even the warranty won't save you since parts are not readily available.

Car had so many failure points that mclaren essentially gave up, didn't bother fixing it and just made an entirely new car.
 

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