Texas dad loses battle to save son from gender transition

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What are you talking about? I never once said I support this nor am I capable of allowing a child to make a life changing decision like this. In fact i stated im against it myself. I dont think anyone should be able to choose anyone elses life changing decisions that they will have to live with forever. And the child is too young to make that kind of decision. Regardless of what reason they had I still wouldnt support it. All i said was that for us to be thr MINORITY here there has to be alot more to the story we are not getting.



so who exactly is the enemy? The jury? The citizens of the united states? The jury is comprised of people like you and me. I dont see how anyone not a single one could be for this. Obviously, there HAS to be more to the story than we are getting.

To dispute that is idiotic.
No, not realizing how jurors are chosen, court works, and handpicked “expert” witnesses can easily influence said jury is idiotic.
 

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What are you talking about? All i said was that for us to be thr MINORITY here there has to be alot more to the story we are not getting.

LOL! How are you taking such a reaming?

Here's what I hear you saying:

More complete and better quality information yields a better decision or result.

If 11 out of 12 people just like us come up with a decision EVERYONE thinks is wrong, maybe there's a chance everyone does not have all the information that the 12 had. I would add the possibility that the way the story was worded could be an unfair or inaccurate description of what actually took place.

I certainly never heard you advocate for removal of any wiener or support the wife or liberals in any way. Just a call for getting the facts.

How did things get so weird?
 

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so who exactly is the enemy? The jury? The citizens of the united states? The jury is comprised of people like you and me. I dont see how anyone not a single one could be for this. Obviously, there HAS to be more to the story than we are getting.

To dispute that is idiotic.

there is more to every story. to withhold judgment until you know everything is idiotic because you'll be chasing that dragon till the cows come home.
what is necessary and important is the critical elements which we do know.

we know enough. people want to do an evil thing. I don't give a crap how many people they con into buying into their nonsense which is easily explainable by the common american's deference to "expertise". "well i don't know nothin about no psychology and she's a doctor so she must know whats going on".

this is a verdict handed down from a worldview.

oh and the enemy? leftists. progressives. SJW's. antifa. they've got lots of names but one common worldview.
 

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Why didn't you just say that from the start? Now I get it.

What were the odds that they accidentally empaneled 11 out of 12 jurors that were progressive leftist SJW antifa A-holes? Bad luck there.
 

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Why didn't you just say that from the start? Now I get it.

What were the odds that they accidentally empaneled 11 out of 12 jurors that were progressive leftist SJW antifa A-holes? Bad luck there.
You do know that jurors are not exactly random, right? They go through questions before being chosen. If one of those questions was "Do you believe someone can be trans-gendered?" and a potential juror says "no", then they are not going to be on the jury. So, the likelihood of people that lean left and believe it is legit is actually pretty high.

yea x2 I don't know.

apparently being reasonable around here gets you outted.
You may not believe that a 7 year old should be subjected to puberty blockers etc., but you're saying we don't know the whole story and to trust the outcome of case (when it was the jury who decided). So you think it has merit and therefore puts you on the "other-side". Why are you surprised people are disagreeing with your assessment of the situation?
 

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You do know that jurors are not exactly random, right? They go through questions before being chosen. If one of those questions was "Do you believe someone can be trans-gendered?" and a potential juror says "no", then they are not going to be on the jury. So, the likelihood of people that lean left and believe it is legit is actually pretty high.

You may not believe that a 7 year old should be subjected to puberty blockers etc., but you're saying we don't know the whole story and to trust the outcome of case (when it was the jury who decided). So you think it has merit and therefore puts you on the "other-side". Why are you surprised people are disagreeing with your assessment of the situation?
Isn't each party limited to the number of jurors that they can reject though?

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Isn't each party limited to the number of jurors that they can reject though?

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Without looking it up I cannot say for certain. However, the case I watched (not part of it, just there for a friend), I don't recall there being a certain number they were allowed to reject. Between the defense and prosecution 6 were rejected IIRC. There was some back and forth on one juror that was ultimately selected.
 

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I'm sure it varies location/jurisdiction to location/jurisdiction

Either way, neither party is ever 100% satisfied with juror selection and if I had to guess, I'd assume the county/city/state gets a little more leeway

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Am I wrong, or did a jury set OJ free? And wasn't there a bunch of crap after the fact that jurors weren't allowed to see during the trial?
 

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yea x2 I don't know.

apparently being reasonable around here gets you outted.

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General question totally unrelated to the subject at hand:

In a show of hands, how many people here think that if you can outlast your competition and make the last comment in a thread that you have in fact won the thread (regardless of how irrelevant or inane the comment)?

I hope someone will give an honest answer to this. I don't think it's true. Even so, I don't want mine to be the last comment just in case.
 

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General question totally unrelated to the subject at hand:

In a show of hands, how many people here think that if you can outlast your competition and make the last comment in a thread that you have in fact won the thread (regardless of how irrelevant or inane the comment)?

I hope someone will give an honest answer to this. I don't think it's true. Even so, I don't want mine to be the last comment just in case.
Are you drunk?
 

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Are you drunk?

Ha ha. Not yet, but I do have plans for a little later. Gotta stay right to dole out stuff to Halloween kids for awhile, eh?

Excellent comment, by the way. If it had been last comment it would definitely have won the thread. It didn't really answer the question though.

Edit: Just saw the 'What's for dinner' thread. Captain Morgan 100. Nice. Now I get the relevance of the question re drunkenness. Have a good one!
 
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Ha ha. Not yet, but I do have plans for a little later. Gotta stay right to dole out stuff to Halloween kids for awhile, eh?

Excellent comment, by the way. If it had been last comment it would definitely have won the thread. It didn't really answer the question though.

Edit: Just saw the 'What's for dinner' thread. Captain Morgan 100. Nice. Now I get the relevance of the question re drunkenness. Have a good one!
Just cuz I'm drinkin', don't mean I'm drunk.

And I ain't here to answer questions.

Go easy tonight, rookie.
 

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What are you talking about? I never once said I support this nor am I capable of allowing a child to make a life changing decision like this. In fact i stated im against it myself. I dont think anyone should be able to choose anyone elses life changing decisions that they will have to live with forever. And the child is too young to make that kind of decision. Regardless of what reason they had I still wouldnt support it. All i said was that for us to be thr MINORITY here there has to be alot more to the story we are not getting.

You don't have to state it explicitly, it's clear from your posts. If you were so against it, you'd say so. Instead, you're the one making comments about how the rest of us are passing judgment without all the details. We probably are, because there's is virtually NO set of circumstances where this should be allowed. So, I don't really care what the rest of the details are.

Am I taking a risk that some extreme set of circumstances I haven't thought of might exist, and change my mind? Sure I am. But I'm perfectly comfortable with it.
 

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