Unnatural Selection

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I HIGHLY recommend this limited series on Netflix. The next 1-xxx years are going to be unfathomable with regard to the capabilities CRISPR and where bioengineering is headed. This series gives some insight on the possibilities and brings up the inevitable ethical questions. I couldn't stop watching. I have a son that I watch struggle with disabilities (that I won't get into) and this struck a huge nerve with me. It's the next medical frontier. Science bitch. I'm interested to read the varying opinions on this topic.

I wanted to bring this topic up the other day. The is it playing God or is it for the good of humanity. Having "Designer Babies", editing out diseases and other heath issues. I will for sure have to watch this.

All for it in the right hands/intentions.

That being said, I would like to watch the series before being stuck to that opinion lol.

Watching it now.

It's going to be just incredible what it can fix/cure........It's also going to destroy humanity as we know it

hoamskilet said:

It's also going to destroy humanity as we know it

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That ship set sail a long time ago

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hoamskilet said:

Watching it now.

It's going to be just incredible what it can fix/cure........It's also going to destroy humanity as we know it

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Wat.

The ability to edit the human genome and produce children with little to no risk of disease/disability will only strengthen the population and humanity. We would take a step forward as a species as it would raise the overall intelligence, health, and well being of the population.

IronSnake said:

Wat.

The ability to edit the human genome and produce children with little to no risk of disease/disability will only strengthen the population and humanity. We would take a step forward as a species as it would raise the overall intelligence, health, and well being of the population.

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Or it will create two classes of people. The rich that can afford to create "perfect super kids" and the poor that can't. Once that takes hold the ones that can't afford it will never be able to compete with the ones that can. I'll be long gone so whatever.

Stanley said:

Or it will create two classes of people. The rich that can afford to create "perfect super kids" and the poor that can't. Once that takes hold the ones that can't afford it will never be able to compete with the ones that can. I'll be long gone so whatever.

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That's capitalism at work. If you can afford it, you can have it.

Stanley said:

Or it will create two classes of people. The rich that can afford to create "perfect super kids" and the poor that can't. Once that takes hold the ones that can't afford it will never be able to compete with the ones that can. I'll be long gone so whatever.

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Meh, multiple classes of people are already a thing. If it werent for crooked politicians the whole world would certainly benefit and eventually erradicate mental illness and disease and become the hypothetical utopia.

Stanley said:

Or it will create two classes of people. The rich that can afford to create "perfect super kids" and the poor that can't. Once that takes hold the ones that can't afford it will never be able to compete with the ones that can. I'll be long gone so whatever.

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The rich would have to help the poor to some extent so they could create "stronger ditch diggers".




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IronSnake said:

Wat.

The ability to edit the human genome and produce children with little to no risk of disease/disability will only strengthen the population and humanity. We would take a step forward as a species as it would raise the overall intelligence, health, and well being of the population.

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You dont see the pandoras box this is gonna open?

If it was restricted to just curing disease, sure, its the greatest thing in the world.

But what do you think countries that have shit for morals like China are gonna do once this really gets going? Hell, not even necessarily countries....individuals themselves. Already in just this show alone you had a guy that was pushing it full bore to do anything and everything with no restrictions, and another who wanted to make a glow in the dark dog for christ's sake.

It's going to be the greatest blessing in the world for a lot of people, but it's also going to unleash unintended consequences that I dont even think we can even wrap our ahead around right now.

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blk02edge said:

If it weren't for crooked politicians.

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This is why we can't have nice things.

Booky said:

The rich would have to help the poor to some extent so they could create "stronger ditch diggers".
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Robotics is moving along very nice.

Stanley said:

This is why we can't have nice things.

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Sad isnt it haha.

hoamskilet said:

You dont see the pandoras box this is gonna open?

If it was restricted to just curing disease, sure, its the greatest thing in the world.

But what do you think countries that have shit for morals like China are gonna do once this really gets going? Hell, not even necessarily countries....individuals themselves. Already in just this show alone you had a guy that was pushing it full bore to do anything and everything with no restrictions, and another who wanted to make a glow in the dark dog for christ's sake.

It's going to be the greatest blessing in the world for a lot of people, but it's also going to unleash unintended consequences that I dont even think we can even wrap our ahead around right now.

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No doubt. But with all the good that comes along with technology, it always has an inherently bad side.

But consider the idea that it makes all human beings physically prime. The best height, weight, BMI, strength, and so on. Couple that with a disposition against diseases/abnormalities, a heightened likelihood of intelligence, and less likelihood for depression/mental disorders.

You're talking about a population that will make huge leaps in technology, health care, and quality of life all in one lifetime.

All this conversation, and you all are just assuming our species is going to survive another 1K years. I don't think that's a given.

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All this conversation, and you all are just assuming our species is going to survive another 1K years. I don't think that's a given.

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Why not? The human race is more peaceful than it ever has been, if you disagree turn off the social media. Humans have been around for a LOT longer than 1k years so far as a bunch of savages. Biggest hurdle is population size.

Well for one thing... we're supposedly well overdue for an extinction level impact with a celestial body. Other than that there are a million reasons that humans could go extinct in the next 1000 years. Famine, disease, Thermo nuclear war, etc... just because we're supposedly smart doesn't mean we can't be wiped out.

blk02edge said:

Why not? The human race is more peaceful than it ever has been, if you disagree turn off the social media. Humans have been around for a LOT longer than 1k years so far as a bunch of savages. Biggest hurdle is population size.

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Sonic605hp said:

Well for one thing... we're supposedly well overdue for an extinction level impact with a celestial body. Other than that there are a million reasons that humans could go extinct in the next 1000 years. Famine, disease, Thermo nuclear war, etc... just because we're supposedly smart doesn't mean we can't be wiped out.

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Lol just because its happened before doesnt mean jack shit. 1k years is merely a blip and looking at the last 20 years of tech I dont believe extinction level asteroids will be an issue in even 50 years. Its all chance, the advancement of humans is growing exponentially so damn fast its hard to keep up. I believe humans will survive and branch out.

Also nuclear war is a very unlikely thing. The past really was very different

Stanley said:

Or it will create two classes of people. The rich that can afford to create "perfect super kids" and the poor that can't. Once that takes hold the ones that can't afford it will never be able to compete with the ones that can. I'll be long gone so whatever.

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H.G. Wells "Time Machine" mentioned humanity evolving into two separate species based from class. High class becoming the Eloi and the working class became Morlocks.
The Eloi live a life of ease on the surface while the Morlocks do all the labor for the Eloi underground, from manufacturing to farming. At least the Morlocks get to hunt Eloi in the dark. Both are smaller, substantially weaker and dumber than an average Human. But it's after <800,000 years of natural selection. This might be at a far faster pace...

IronSnake said:

That's capitalism at work. If you can afford it, you can have it.

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Not quite. Back in the medieval ages you could argue it was a capitalist society because if you cold afford to live like a noble or a lord you could have it. But it was anything but capitalism. It was impossible for someone born a peasant to move up in society short of a fairy tale.

Peasants could farm and invent things but the market price a lord or noble would pay would keep the peasants in poverty and under submission. Not only was the system unfair but there was no perception of fairness at all.

Now consider gene editing allowing only the most wealthy to continue lording over the masses by having genetically superior heirs with tons of wealth. With each generation it will get harder and harder for the poor to move up in society. Moreover it will not appear to be a fair system. Anytime the system seems unfair to the masses a revolution is just around the corner.