Today’s Youth Against Firearms

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Here is why I believe today’s youth are against firearms.

BULLYING

Youth today talk a great game about how they are “WOKE” and against bullying yet it seems like we have greater and more disturbing cases of bullying.

When I was in school things usually got handled by a fight before things got crazy. This usually ended it regardless of the outcome.

Today, we have social media to push things way past the point of what a simple fight could settle. They attempt to ruin lives for years. Kids don’t stop after fights. It usually gets worse.

Then when the victim commits suicide or shoots somebody these Woke Jokes cry about guns. They don’t get called out on the treatment of the person even though they always admit to bullying.

I believe these idiots want to ban firearms because they do not want to face the repercussions of their actions.


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The difference between my day "GenX" and today was the kid that got bullied could go on with his life after the school day. It didn't follow him home on a 24/7 social media feed. He could grow up and move out of town and recreate himself.
A kid I went to school with was bullied mercilessly, but when he graduated he moved on became a NYC firefighter and has a pretty cute wife. Another girl I knew was the town hoe. She moved South reinvented herself and married a good old boy.
It seems like you can't do that today. 60 years from now some 80 year old guy is still going to be called Pissboy because he had an accident in 1st grade.

The reason for guns is because of bullies and tyrants
 

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The difference between my day "GenX" and today was the kid that got bullied could go on with his life after the school day. It didn't follow him home on a 24/7 social media feed. He could grow up and move out of town and recreate himself.
A kid I went to school with was bullied mercilessly, but when he graduated he moved on became a NYC firefighter and has a pretty cute wife. Another girl I knew was the town hoe. She moved South reinvented herself and married a good old boy.
It seems like you can't do that today. 60 years from now some 80 year old guy is still going to be called Pissboy because he had an accident in 1st grade.

The reason for guns is because of bullies and tyrants

It's a new world in a sense thanks to SM and cellphones.
Awkward photo of a 15 year old?
Potentially tagged and shared. Across Facebook, Twitter and Instagram.

Kids are being connected at too early of an age. Sure for most kids it's ok and they don't get sucked in to a crazy level but some do.I don't think some adults can handle it, yet alone some teenager going through puberty and being really vulnerable about a lot of things in life. Stuff that adults may not put too much stock in, but teens overthink things at times

Like you posted, bullying now can be 24/7, even when the kid is in bed. There is no "safe spot" and that's not good.



But for the original topic, I may be in a bubble but I have yet to see evidence for the youth being anti-gun. I'm sure some see the rise in school shootings and of course think it could happen to them and then they see the simple solution of banning guns. Or restrictions etc.
Media wise, though, I think it's just the MSM keeping up the topic simply to keep it going.
 

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Stop with that logic and reasoning, that's not allowed in politics

Social media is cancer. Teen suicide skyrocketed around the same time the iphone and Twitter came out. I'm not saying there's causality, but there is a correlation

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I predict a day is soon coming when social media dies due to the negative ripple effects it has on society. IMO, the environment of hate in this country hasn't been created by an individual or political view. It has been created and fanned by social media, with members fanning issues and views way out of proportion. Group/crowd harassment.

Like @Deceptive said, back in the day the parties would settle it between themselves (with little or any outside interference). I remember when I was 12-13 years old this neighborhood kid kept harassing me, and one day early evening he did it one final time. I had had enough. The two of us went at it right there on the sidewalk, with more shoving than throwing punches. We went to the ground and I got him in a headlock and wouldn't let go. We squirmed on the ground for maybe 10 minutes with him unable to get free. Finally he had enough and it was over. We got up, and went our separate ways. He never harassed me again. Neither of us were physically hurt that night, but the issue was settled. That was typically how issues got resolved. And it worked just fine!
 

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I predict a day is soon coming when social media dies due to the negative ripple effects it has on society. IMO, the environment of hate in this country hasn't been created by an individual or political view. It has been created and fanned by social media, with members fanning issues and views way out of proportion. Group/crowd harassment.

Like @Deceptive said, back in the day the parties would settle it between themselves (with little or any outside interference). I remember when I was 12-13 years old this neighborhood kid kept harassing me, and one day early evening he did it one final time. I had had enough. The two of us went at it right there on the sidewalk, with more shoving than throwing punches. We went to the ground and I got him in a headlock and wouldn't let go. We squirmed on the ground for maybe 10 minutes with him unable to get free. Finally he had enough and it was over. We got up, and went our separate ways. He never harassed me again. Neither of us were physically hurt that night, but the issue was settled. That was typically how issues got resolved. And it worked just fine!

I had something similar happen in junior high. I was the new kid and this kid kept just pushing at me. Always making comments and trying to shove me around. I finally had one day and took a swing at him. Some punches were thrown, but no one was seriously hurt. The funny part is his friends that were constantly hyping him up were the first ones to run when I swung at him. After that we were totally cool with each other.
 

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Kids were also able to fight back, today everyone is guilty and the bullies do not care.
My future kids will be enrolled in Brazillian Jui Jitsu to learn early on what its like to have someone in your face and how to defend themselves. Hopefully they develop the skills to remain calm under pressure with someone in their face. And, if the other side swings first to stop the threat.

Ill never be mad about them ending a confrontation violently in their favor. If they get suspended, so be it so long as they were not the aggressor.
 

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Social media is cancer.


If something is "free," you are the product. Social media (such as Facebook, Myspace, Twitter) was originally proposed as a CIA database system to create "profiles." It was continually shot down until it was "re-framed" as a strategic marketing system by a private company. Ever wonder why FB squashed Myspace so fast? Look up what else happened on 2/4/2004...

Constant interconnectivity between people with like ideologies spreads them faster than a cold on an airplane. And in this day and age, everyone is angry. Why? We're late, distracted, screwed over, overworked, underpaid, overstimulated, and the quality of everything is garbage. Despite advances in technology and modern "conveniences," this is a horrible time to be alive.

So, take tons of angry people, angry for reasons they don't even know. Shove them all together in a single space and use politics as a catalyst. Boom.

As for youth being against firearms... They're simply parroting what they are falsely given as fact. Most people (including many firearm owners) are ignorant individuals. People fear what they don't understand.
 
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I have an 18 year old daughter and we have been talking a lot about this lately. Even more since the shooting we had a couple of weeks ago and now her new boss is a die hard libcuck and has been showing her the Sandy Hook videos and scaring the crap out of her. She doesn’t believe we need to get rid of them but does think that we need more prevention and education. Education in spotting the problems and taking care of it before something happens. It’s tough between her new boss and college professors they are being brain washed.


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You can also blame zero tolerance rules in schools.

Everyone says back in the day, just fight it out, shake hands, and be done with it.

Now even the kids that fight back against bullies get in trouble

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well now they can face fines and even criminal charges...The worst thing that would happen to us was in school suspension and if it happened multiple times A-school (alternative off campus school for the real problem kids)
 

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The problem isn't bullying or guns or social media.

Its bad parenting. Until parents are held liable it will never be solved. You have kids raising kids these days that don't know any better themselves.

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100% this. Fix the family and the home and we have a shot at getting back on track.

But too much of an entitlement feeling thats been spread via social media is going to make that difficult.
 

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I would have probably agreed with this that current youth is against firearms but yesterday I saw something rather.. interesting.

There was an AMA on Reddit, which is disgustingly overrun with socialists/liberals, Beto was answering questions. Based on his views and the demographics of the vast majority of Reddit, they should have been lining up to pleasure him.

He was eaten alive on like half of his answers.

He made some comments about doing a mandatory buyback for firearms within the country and was answered with statistics and logic which basically put him in his place.

I remember going to a sales seminar for work and they were talking about statistically it's more difficult to sell to today's youth because they do so much research on a subject before they purchase. Anecdotally I see it constantly, I have a customer who needs help, I give them an option, and they tell me they trust me. It's not like that with younger people, they do a ton of research and spend days before they get back to me with a decision. I'd like to think they react the same way to firearms, but it feels skewed because the media loves to show young people taking a stand against these "murder machines."

Also, off topic, that Beto guy is a complete snake BS politician. You can definitely tell when reading his answers, no substance, no plan, no nothing.
 

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I was taught that if someone tried to bully you, you beat the **** out of them.

The first time I got in a fist fight my dad asked me two questions.

1. Did you start the fight?
2. Did you win?

The only acceptable answers were no and yes, in that order.

Now parents are raising their children to be slack jawed victims.
 

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Who says youth are against firearms? The media? Here in MT there is an weekend set aside at the beginning of hunting season for youth hunters. Also opening day of hunting season is usually a day off school.
 

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I had something similar happen in junior high. I was the new kid and this kid kept just pushing at me. Always making comments and trying to shove me around. I finally had one day and took a swing at him. Some punches were thrown, but no one was seriously hurt. The funny part is his friends that were constantly hyping him up were the first ones to run when I swung at him. After that we were totally cool with each other.
I had a confrontation once in 8th grade similar to yours. It was quick with a few punches thrown, and then it was over. Those egging him on to push me around were the first ones to book when the punches started to fly. I never had another issue with this kid after this "event".
 

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