Really? This Qualifies For "Stand Your Ground"

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Correct. But I know which loser I rather be. ;)

Oh for sure. Call me a pussy, but I don’t confront anyone over stupid BS. If I can walk away I do. If it is really worth confronting someone I do and have, but they were extreme situations that left me no choice.

At the end of the day one dummy is pushing up daisies, the other pushing dicks up his ass for the next 20yrs over a ****ing parking spot. SMH
 

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Oh for sure. Call me a pussy, but I don’t confront anyone over stupid BS. If I can walk away I do. If it is really worth confronting someone I do and have, but they were extreme situations that left me no choice.

At the end of the day one dummy is pushing up daisies, the other pushing dicks up his ass for the next 20yrs over a ****ing parking spot. SMH

I hear you, Jeff. I try and be the same. Have been really trying to keep a cooler head on my shoulders. Shit is crazy out there and the last thing I wanna do is get caught up in it.
 

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I hear you, Jeff. I try and be the same. Have been really trying to keep a cooler head on my shoulders. Shit is crazy out there and the last thing I wanna do is get caught up in it.

I got too much to lose over some bullshit. I would have called and reported their parking in
 

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Nobody won that day. Everyone was a loser in some way shape or form

I disagree. Society won this time.

Now that the derailed section of track of gone, I would like to hear exactly what it is that would make you find Drejka guilty. I want to start by saying that Drejka’s actions don’t sit well with me, but it wouldn’t cause me to find him guilty and face prison time. His past accusations don’t sit well with me either. I am judging him in this case, that we call all see on video. He was legally carrying a concealed firearm. He was in a place where he had a right to be. He had the right to tell someone that they were parking illegally. Mr. Mcglockton committed battery on Mr. Drejka. I struggled through two things. Did that attack warrant the shooting, and the seemingly long time to fire the gun once it was out. I’ll work through those problems. For the first part of the question, I had to put myself or someone I care about in his shoes. He’s older and weaker than me, so I asked myself if my wife or father should have shot him. The answer is absolutely yes. A violent blindsided attack where the aggressor pulls up his pants and appears to be wanting to do more harm and the driver of the vehicle gets out would make a reasonable person fearful. The last part is tricky. I saw the video a few times and felt like he didn’t have to shoot. It appears the gun came out and Mr. Mcglockton took a step back and bladed his body. I counted a one second delay on were I felt it should have registered to the shooter that it was over. I started thinking that this was one shot that was well placed. It seems to me that he knew he had a bad backstop if he missed or haphazardly shot off a bunch of rounds. In the video you see him getting his sight picture and firing. Just as I have done at the shooting range. You identify your target, stare at your front sight while the target gets out of focus and then pull the trigger. And so I couldn’t find him guilty. That delay was him aiming. He wouldn’t have been able to see him take a step back. He probably had one eye shut. I don’t like it. It doesn’t sit well with me that it happened. I would have been able to avoid it. What specifically made you find him guilty?


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I'll answer with my post from July last year when the story first came out:

The dead guy pulled 2 dick moves, parking in a handicapped spot, then escalating a verbal confrontation. If we had just read about this and didn't have video pretty much everyone would probably be on the side of the shooter. With video though I have to say this is manslaughter. He definitely had time to think about what he was doing after he pulled his gun and dead guy no longer posed a threat as he backed away.

This is coming from a staunch supporter of the 2A that has a license to carry and does daily.
 

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That may be an equal response. And again we don’t know what was said leading up to the shove. What we do know when the victim exited the store....is Drejka is at the victims car voicing something and talking with hand gestures while the girlfriend is exiting the car.

It’s possible there was a threatening situation.


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No reasonable person would leave the safety of their car if they truly felt threatened. They would have locked the doors, rolled up the windows and/or left.


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Stop and assess the whole picture. First of all, of all the reactions I could have in a similar situation (possibly talking calmly to a suspect to the other end of the spectrum....possibly pulling a gun and shooting them dead after I tried to retreat because Im in Ohio) my reaction will be an EQUAL reaction to the situation. Killing someone because they called you a butthead is not an Equal response.
If someone in a store told me my wife was being being assaulted in my car ( hearsay) and I came out and assessed that was actually happening (fact), I will shove that person without a second thought.
If someone is aiming a gun at a family member with the intent to shoot, Im going draw my weapon and shoot them.

As for why “ I may have the same reaction”....
Again and referring to the video. We don’t know if there was a verbal altercation or threat Drejka made to the victims girlfriend. If his girlfriend WAS being verbally assaulted or threatened and the victims reaction was to shove Drejka out of the way, I may have the same reaction as well. Again the video does not have sound. But there are witnesses including the girlfriend and a child that most likely did not help Drejka in court.


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Has it crossed anyone’s mind that the female in the vehicle was the verbal aggressor? I’d hate to be a captain save a hoe for a girlfriend if she caused it.


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Has it crossed anyone’s mind that the female in the vehicle was the verbal aggressor? I’d hate to be a captain save a hoe for a girlfriend if she caused it.


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I read about their verbal exchange somewhere, from the female POV. Nothing was reported by her, that would constitute disrespect or aggression by Drejka.

I also read that Mcglockton had been reported for domestic abuse. Along with a lengthy history with the Popos. Made Drejka look like a model citizen. According to what I read.
 

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No reasonable person would leave the safety of their car if they truly felt threatened. They would have locked the doors, rolled up the windows and/or left.


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The girlfriend exited the vehicle as her boyfriend was approaching. Not sure why. May be she ok with him her boyfriend present.


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Yes, he was on drugs and couldn’t think clearly.




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Here is the jewel... definitely a model citizen. Glad to have some here that support his character.

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I couldn't imagine getting so upset that I would confront someone over damn parking spot bruh..

Like I said last year, the shooter should've knuckled up since he was so upset.
 

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I may have done the same thing if I was pushed. But, I may not have to avoid further conflict.

Instead, I may have crawled away and not drawn my weapon or I may have gotten up and kicked his ass.

I may have apologized, or I may not have.

This is all if I were in the shoes of Drejka.

May or may not, that is the question.




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