Really? This Qualifies For "Stand Your Ground"

Actually it is the victims who instigated the thing in the first place by parking illegally. If the dufuss had parked in a legal spot nothing would have happened. As far as racial slurs you have better hearing then I do to get that out of that video.

GT Premi said:

So, in other words, you're going to do all the mental gymnastics possible to make the murderer look innocent of a situation that HE INSTIGATED IN THE FIRST PLACE. Saying the victim "shouldn't have parked in the handicap spot" is beyond disingenuous. Classic blame-the-victim tactic. I guess women who get raped shouldn't have went to the place where it happened or worn what they were wearing. I mean, if she didn't go there and/or dress in a way that provoked the rapist... It's not the rapist's fault he couldn't control his impulses brought on by what a woman wears. He was providing a community service by punishing women who don't dress the way moral "laws" say they should. If she had dressed more modestly, she wouldn't have been raped. Right?

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I’m not sure why you quoted my post and then rambled on about something I didn’t say, speaking of disingenuous.


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HillbillyHotRod said:

Actually it is the victims who instigated the thing in the first place by parking illegally. If the dufuss had parked in a legal spot nothing would have happened. As far as racial slurs you have better hearing then I do to get that out of that video.

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trying to stretch illegally parking into a justified shooting is one hell of a stretch. Just because someone does something dickish doesnt mean it warrants any kind of response. I'm all for stand your ground but this guy was looking for a reason to a shoot someone and he found it/created it

jaxbusa said:

I’m not sure why you quoted my post and then rambled on about something I didn’t say, speaking of disingenuous.


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Because he needed a way to reply to me, without putting up face.

This thread might warm up again..



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ZYBORG said:

Racial slurs huh? Always got to make it racial, huh?

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That's Gt-Preeeeemies bread and buttah, race card, oppression olympics...

Good, the right outcome for this case.

DSG2003Mach1 said:

trying to stretch illegally parking into a justified shooting is one hell of a stretch. Just because someone does something dickish doesnt mean it warrants any kind of response. I'm all for stand your ground but this guy was looking for a reason to a shoot someone and he found it/created it

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Maybe so but point being if the he had not parked there in the first place or if he had not forcibly shoved him he would still be here.

Stand my ground.

dannydarko11 said:

This thread might warm up again..

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I'll just leave this caramel popcorn here...

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You always have got the best popcorn my man!

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HillbillyHotRod said:

... As far as racial slurs you have better hearing then I do to get that out of that video.

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I guess you never read any of the details of the case.

DSG2003Mach1 said:

trying to stretch illegally parking into a justified shooting is one hell of a stretch. Just because someone does something dickish doesnt mean it warrants any kind of response. I'm all for stand your ground but this guy was looking for a reason to a shoot someone and he found it/created it

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^^This. The killer wasn't a ****ing cop! It's not his place, job nor duty to try to admonish anyone for parking in a handicap spot. I swear, the mental gymnastics being performed to make the murderer look innocent is Olympic level. Gabby Douglas can't even pull off those moves.

Although don't get me wrong, people that don't need em that park in handicapped spots probably do need a good slap upside the head.

How's that one quote go, something like - "modern man is far more discourteous than savages because they know they can do it without getting their skull split as a general thing"

HillbillyHotRod said:

Maybe so but point being if the he had not parked there in the first place or if he had not forcibly shoved him he would still be here.

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It has been broken down many different ways.

Would this have happened if Brittney, the driver, parked legally? No.

Would this have happened if Drejka minded his own business? No.

Would this have happened if Mcglockton, the deceased, didn’t push Drejka? No.

I’m on here trying to understand why people feel like they do. If the Sheriff of that county couldn’t figure it out, how are the citizens suppose to.



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So, here is something more to chew on. Seems to me that, while shooter was looking for trouble, shootee was used to doing as he damned well pleased to whomever he damn well pleased (including what he believed to be a relatively defenseless, smaller, old guy) because he was a big guy who didn't give a shit. Both were bullies, I won't shed a tear for either one.

Here's my question: If shooter were carrying openly, and shootee sees it, do you think shootee would still shove shooter, would he maybe engage in dialogue, or something else?

rwleonard said:

So, here is something more to chew on. Seems to me that, while shooter was looking for trouble, shootee was used to doing as he damned well pleased to whomever he damn well pleased (including what he believed to be a relatively defenseless, smaller, old guy) because he was a big guy who didn't give a shit. Both were bullies, I won't shed a tear for either one.

Here's my question: If shooter were carrying openly, and shootee sees it, do you think shootee would still shove shooter, would he maybe engage in dialogue, or something else?

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If Drejka did not have a gun, do you think he would have been out there playing Billy Badass parking enforcer?

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Booky said:

If Drejka did not have a gun, do you think he would have been out there playing Billy Badass parking enforcer?

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If Drejka was taller, younger and more muscular than Mcglochton, you think he would have attacked him like that? Or maybe proceeded to try and de-escalate?

Books, I think this unfolded the way it did because each bully thought he had a decisive advantage. So, without the gun, I don't think shooter would have behaved as he did. On the other hand, if shootee didn't believe he had a decisive physical advantage , I think his approach to the matter might have been different as well.

Read both articles and watched the video.

No racial slurs. @GT Premi is crying again for no reason.

Just because the articles both say " White man shot a black man in self defense" does not mean it was racially motivated.

Personally, if I see people parking like a complete asshole, or blocking a spot that is used for either emergencies or something else, I will say something, with or without my gun. No, it is not because I am "billy badass internetz guy" it is simply because I say what is right. It is also how you go about it and granted, the person involved had a gun.

However much I don't agree with taking a life over something so minuscule, no matter if Drejka was looking for a fight, or, kind of keeping an eye on his community despite not being law enforcement, that was a HARD shove from a much bigger guy.

Also, if ANYONE actually notices in the video -Mcglochton comes storming out of the store and immediately goes right after Drejka and pushes him damn hard, and once the guy is on the ground, he approaches him even more. It is only until Drejka drew his weapon that he backed up.

One can only speculate what could and would have happened, but, I see it as Mclochton was going to beat the crap out of Drejka, most likely because he was being a macho man protecting his woman.

All of this coould have been avoided if they either did not park in a spot to avoid any type of problem (I kind of think that they too were looking for problems by doing so and knowing what they are doing is illegal and wrong) and it also could have been avoided if Mclochton didn't come out and initiate the confrontation in such an aggressive manner that became physical. I am confident if Mclochton walked up and told the guy sorry and drove away, everyone would be going about their lives.

Two wrongs do not make a right.

rwleonard said:

So, here is something more to chew on. Seems to me that, while shooter was looking for trouble, shootee was used to doing as he damned well pleased to whomever he damn well pleased

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I agree. Look at his history.






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