2020 GT500 - Official Curb Weight!!

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Hard to believe it weighs 500 lbs MORE than my S197! Doesn't seem to stop the Hellcat from going fast tho.... and with todays blower technology does it really matter? I mean Whipples and VMP's making 900 whp like its nothing! Even the Ford GT weighs in at only 50 lbs less than my car at 3500 lbs and that's a $450k super car!
 

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Don't want to start a war, but the ZL1 1LE is like 375# lighter. That's is a significant difference, given very similar sized cars and features.

It clearly won't be as fast, until Chevy drops the ZR1 engine in it.

FTFY
Once Chevy puts the ZR1 engine in the ZL1 1LE, it's going to smash this GT500 everywhere. They already started offering it with the A10 transmission back in January just to make it kind of keep pace. I bet as soon as the GT500 hits production/dealers, Chevy is going to announce the 755HP engine going into the ZL1s. At that point, price and weight, you'd pretty much have to be crazy to pick the GT500 over a ZL1 counterpart, if performance is what you seek.

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I guess part of this is changing our frame of reference as if the car is producing serious results and performance (see recent 0-100-0 bomb), maybe it’s not as bad as it seems. ...

Nope! Don't start trying to let Ford off the hook! That kind of thinking is why we're being given a 4200 lbs hog for the top dog Mustang. To those trying to hint at how great it performs at this weight, imagine how much BETTER it would be, if it was 500 lbs lighter.


Where Ford squandered opportunities to save weight:*
- Steel rotors instead of carbon composite
- Steel k-member instead of carbon composite
- Stamped steel suspension components instead of lighter metals (Al, Mg, Ti)
- Getting stuck in the more power -> more cooling -> more weight loop


*For the "it would be too expensive" argument, this post was brought to you by the letter C and the number 8.
 

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I know you can make Carbon pretty strong, but with the weight of the car, weight of the engine and cooling components, and grip this car is capable of, I'd be surprised if you could make a smaller / lighter / stronger (whichever) K-member that can safely and adequately replace the current K-member.

I have seen tubular K-members break at the track, that's not really the place to save weight on a road race car.
 

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It will Not beat a Demon!!!! At that weight. . . .I need to cancel my order! Weight I don’t have a order only the Rich can afford this Tank!

Bu bu but... “venom kills demons”, said Jim Owens (FORD PERFORMANCE).
 

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I know you can make Carbon pretty strong, but with the weight of the car, weight of the engine and cooling components, and grip this car is capable of, I'd be surprised if you could make a smaller / lighter / stronger (whichever) K-member that can safely and adequately replace the current K-member.

I have seen tubular K-members break at the track, that's not really the place to save weight on a road race car.

Agreed.

So, does anyone have one on order that doesn't want it anymore?

If so, I'd like to get it. I haven't been this excited about a GT500 since I got my first one in 2009.
 

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Agreed.

So, does anyone have one on order that doesn't want it anymore?

If so, I'd like to get it. I haven't been this excited about a GT500 since I got my first one in 2009.
I don't get it, you didn't previously want one personally but now that its near hellcat heft is confirmed you do?
 

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You were more excited about the 09 than the 13???

It was actually a 2008 that I picked up. It was my first one, and I was stoked for it. Had it for a couple of years then ordered a 2013, then a 2014. I was stoked for the 2013/14 but nowhere near as excited as I was to get my first one.

All relative.

I don't get it, you didn't previously want one personally but now that its near hellcat heft is confirmed you do?

Yes. Where guys are bitching about the weight being an issue, I get it. But I've seen some lap times, and performance data that is a few weeks away from being released that is EXTREMELY impressive (I've been saying how awesome the times and numbers are for about 7 weeks now), and when I see that coupled with a 4200# car, I get excited.

If I end up with one, I'll be swapping seats, wheels, rotors, etc etc etc. 0 doubt in my mind that this car can't lose 400-500# fairly easily and become a HUGE contender on any track.

The engine coupled with the 7-speed transmission, will absolutely dominate on road courses that are 2.3 mile+ with at least two long straights. With the right tires, suspension setup, and some weight savings, I have no doubt that this car will perform extremely well on the shorter tracks as well.
 

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Lol it's always a laugh reading this forum. LostM just yank everyone of you that replied to his comment and I am sure he is sitting back having a good laugh. I know I just did. You need to re-read how he stated what he said. Most of you just rolled right over it because you were looking to say something back so bad. Reading comprehension for the lose.

Not going to take his fun away, like the liberty commercial, with the bird attacking his reflection, you'll figure it out...maybe....

Now back to it.

Take him to dinner why dont you.. then head back to m6g where you Cucks belong.

Nice try Kaneda.

Should have let him stay.

Nark


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Exactly. Guy went and told the teacher on the guy that made the whole classroom laugh everyday.

We used to beat those guys bloody back in school.

Shame.
 

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It was actually a 2008 that I picked up. It was my first one, and I was stoked for it. Had it for a couple of years then ordered a 2013, then a 2014. I was stoked for the 2013/14 but nowhere near as excited as I was to get my first one.

All relative.



Yes. Where guys are bitching about the weight being an issue, I get it. But I've seen some lap times, and performance data that is a few weeks away from being released that is EXTREMELY impressive (I've been saying how awesome the times and numbers are for about 7 weeks now), and when I see that coupled with a 4200# car, I get excited.

If I end up with one, I'll be swapping seats, wheels, rotors, etc etc etc. 0 doubt in my mind that this car can't lose 400-500# fairly easily and become a HUGE contender on any track.

The engine coupled with the 7-speed transmission, will absolutely dominate on road courses that are 2.3 mile+ with at least two long straights. With the right tires, suspension setup, and some weight savings, I have no doubt that this car will perform extremely well on the shorter tracks as well.

Hmm. Okay. Just sounded odd since the 13/14 cars have been the biggest bomb that Ford has ever dropped on the car industry.

We all like what we like.

I am with you on the performance of the new 500. It is a piggy but will definitely **** shit up (minus a Demon).
 

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It was actually a 2008 that I picked up. It was my first one, and I was stoked for it. Had it for a couple of years then ordered a 2013, then a 2014. I was stoked for the 2013/14 but nowhere near as excited as I was to get my first one.

All relative.



Yes. Where guys are bitching about the weight being an issue, I get it. But I've seen some lap times, and performance data that is a few weeks away from being released that is EXTREMELY impressive (I've been saying how awesome the times and numbers are for about 7 weeks now), and when I see that coupled with a 4200# car, I get excited.

If I end up with one, I'll be swapping seats, wheels, rotors, etc etc etc. 0 doubt in my mind that this car can't lose 400-500# fairly easily and become a HUGE contender on any track.

The engine coupled with the 7-speed transmission, will absolutely dominate on road courses that are 2.3 mile+ with at least two long straights. With the right tires, suspension setup, and some weight savings, I have no doubt that this car will perform extremely well on the shorter tracks as well.

At what additional cost though?
Some weight removal will be cheap/free.
But brakes? That won’t be cheap.

Hopefully they offer a track prepped version.

Less audio video
Seat delete etc.
I doubt it will happen though, I. The public arena.


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Hmm. Okay. Just sounded odd since the 13/14 cars have been the biggest bomb that Ford has ever dropped on the car industry.

We all like what we like.

I am with you on the performance of the new 500. It is a piggy but will definitely **** shit up (minus a Demon).

Yes they were, that's why I had one of each (2013 and 2014).

At what additional cost though?
Some weight removal will be cheap/free.
But brakes? That won’t be cheap.

Hopefully they offer a track prepped version.

Less audio video
Seat delete etc.
I doubt it will happen though, I. The public arena.


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What cost? Listen, I get that everything has a value, yada yada yada. The days of the Fox body Mustangs that can CHEAPLY be made in to track cars, are over. Period. Nothing is cheap. Adding power isn't cheap, reducing weight isn't cheap, adding lateral grip isn't cheap, reducing stopping speed isn't cheap, etc.

The MY20 GT500 ARE NOT your blue collar track cars, period. They have entered in to the white collar track guy's playbook, ie Porsche, Viper, etc.

For instance, I decided I wanted to lose some weight in my Viper. I spent $350 on titanium open lugnuts, $1300 on a carbon fiber belly pan, $1300 on a carbon fiber driveshaft, $2000 on lightweight wheels (not light enough, about to purchase some Forgeline GTD-1s for $6k), twin disc clutch and light flywheel for $3000 and I ordered Tillet seats to save weight for $5000. So adding that up, excluding the wheels I haven't ordered yet, I'm sitting at almost $13,000 to save just over 150#. I'll be in it for nearly $20000 and save 180#.

A friend of mine has spent $30k lightening his car up. He's just under 3000#, and he just spent an additional $35k on a heads/cam package running on E12, put down 803/730.

Moral of the story, no it won't be cheap/free, but this car isn't about being cheap or free.
 

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Right.. because everyone who buys a GT500 is going to buy the top tier Carbon car and also plans to "on track" it every weekend.

LMAO!

Fail!!

Your a fail, ignorant fools like your self that sit behind a keyboard and take anything negative and run with it? The car will perform period no matter the weight. Go buy that failure of a C8 stingray that will need to be bailed out because of engineering failures lol. Oh and because it does 0-60 3 sec or better, lol gtfo


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