At least 18 dead, 22 injured in El Paso mall shooting

takiotoshi said:

I was born in Texas but because of my name that makes me a illegal right!

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Quit playing the victim card. The people that committed both of these atrocities had mental
Health issues and shouldn’t have owned firearms even though they passed the background check. It was horrible senseless violence. Don’t play the race card either. If you don’t like it here you can leave.


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Corbic said:

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What's amazing about that post is that Neil was correct to start with, and was also correct, in advance, about how his followers would react.

Way too many people play the victim card. They take what is being reported by the Media and focus on that.

If the Media reported on elephants that were killing smaller animals randomly, everyone would focus on that. Instead, those that follow the Media's every word like it is true and accurate fail to realize most of it is for a good story.

The victim card is definitely worn out and there are a few guys here that are of non-white ethnicity and constantly make passive-aggressive racist comments and never reply to anyone again with factual information.

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Here are the facts, a white person killed 22 people, injured many others and ruin the lives of a lot of people. Refute that.

takiotoshi said:

Here are the facts, a white person killed 22 people, injured many others and ruin the lives of a lot of people. Refute that.

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You nailed it, ban white people.

takiotoshi said:

Here are the facts, a white person killed 22 people, injured many others and ruin the lives of a lot of people. Refute that.

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Wrong! 31 killed don’t spread fake news like CNN.


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A few people die and everyone loses their minds.... lol.

Why don’t you cry for the people that are DYING right now. Why aren’t you helping them???

Why don’t we ban knifes?
Cars?
**** it, Doctors! They kill people too.
Take alcohol away... take double cheese burgers away too, how about slurpees? They kill too.

18-21 is too young to own a gun, but they sure can go fight your fights and die for your country, while you get to cower at home? Ha! Funny.


The world is not your safe space, bad shit happens, quit acting like a victim and perhaps take charge. Maybe then you will figure out that having the ability to carry, will give you and yours a fighting chance, should shit hit the fan around you.

takiotoshi said:

Here are the facts, a white person killed 22 people, injured many others and ruin the lives of a lot of people. Refute that.

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What about all of the white people that are killed by people of color and other ethnicities? Police officers shot and killed doing their jobs, the ANTIFA guys, etc.

Also, did you even look at the photo of all of the mass shooters for all of 2019 so far?

Over 60 of them are black and less than 20 are white. What about the lives lost because alll of those people, and not just the white shooters? Do they not matter because they were not killed by a white person?

Suddenly, people ONLY matter if a white person kills them. Otherwise, they are unimportant and not discussed, mourned or mentioned on media. God forbid though, a piece of shit white person kills someone. White people as a whole (which are a minority now) are all evil right?

takiotoshi said:

Here are the facts, a white person killed 22 people, injured many others and ruin the lives of a lot of people. Refute that.

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I just want to note that your name sounds like a massage joint that offers happy endings if you know the secret phrase.

That is all.

Grabber said:

Way too many people play the victim card. They take what is being reported by the Media and focus on that.

If the Media reported on elephants that were killing smaller animals randomly, everyone would focus on that. Instead, those that follow the Media's every word like it is true and accurate fail to realize most of it is for a good story.

The victim card is definitely worn out and there are a few guys here that are of non-white ethnicity and constantly make passive-aggressive racist comments and never reply to anyone again with factual information.

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I forgot where it was. It was an older giraffe a couple years ago that got killed by a hunter. And everybody lost their shit..

Even though the science showed the older giraffe was killing literally ALL of the younger giraffe males in the area which was destroying the population as he was too old to reproduce anymore and was killing the ones who could.

The liberals freaked out.. said humans were killing the wild life and blah blah. Not considering killing one to save hundreds of future generations of giraffe

All because the media said “ man bad. Man kill giraffe “

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takiotoshi said:

Here are the facts, a white person killed 22 people, injured many others and ruin the lives of a lot of people. Refute that.

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The color of the person shouldn't matter. That's a major part of the problem in this world today.

As the world population keeps growing that means the quantity of real crazies grows too. Then they see other crazies get glorified in the media and it plants the idea seed. I firmly believe that these people that commit these heinous acts should be executed publicly within 6 months of said act. Bring back public hanging. 2 things get accomplished. You get justice and you end that bad blood line.

ZYBORG said:

A few people die and everyone loses their minds.... lol.

Why don’t you cry for the people that are DYING right now. Why aren’t you helping them???

Why don’t we ban knifes?
Cars?
**** it, Doctors! They kill people too.
Take alcohol away... take double cheese burgers away too, how about slurpees? They kill too.

18-21 is too young to own a gun, but they sure can go fight your fights and die for your country, while you get to cower at home? Ha! Funny.


The world is not your safe space, bad shit happens, quit acting like a victim and perhaps take charge. Maybe then you will figure out that having the ability to carry, will give you and yours a fighting chance, should shit hit the fan around you.

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We need to stop issuing drivers licenses, sue auto manufacturers and ban cars too!

Put this in the ps section thread but ill also drop it in here

We are not addressing the root cause of the issue. Guns have been available to the public for over 200 + years. Guns are not the issue. We have multiple societal issues going on.

The problem is people keep labeling it as mass shootings. Are we concerned that there are mass shootings or mass killings? I’ll explain further.

Hypothetically lets say every single firearm vanished off the planet tomorrow. Do you think that mass killings will stop tomorrow? No. Do you think the people hell bent on killing people will just suddenly say “no more guns, looks like I can’t/won’t kill anyone”?

It won’t obviously. Don’t wanna be the bearer of bad news but evil finds a way. Once one of these ****ers figures out there are other ways and MSM and Social Media glorify it we will be right back in the cycle. Again. By product would be lots of normal people have no means to protect themselves.

Point is we are not addressing the actual issue of what’s happening. Gun control advocates are either naive, simple minded or the worst of all, want to have total control. I think a lot has to do with the 3rd option.



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Great Asp said:

It would seem there are indicators that people (us) know who these people are before they commit acts like this. Being a parent I can tell you that your children raised the same way, act differently in life. I would not blame any one thing, event, video games, Hollywood, or anyone's rhetoric as "the reason" someone goes out and commits violent acts like this. It has to be a mixture of the person in particular and the environment.

Getting rid of some guns, or all guns is punitive to those of us that treat other humans with at least basic respect, and I believe if a person is committed to acting badly, they will find a way to do so with or without guns.

I also believe the 2nd Amendment prevents tyranny at the highest level (see Russian and Hong Kong protests as examples)

We all need to stay alert and say something (looks like the Dayton shooter was identified and the police could not, did not act) if we see or know a troubled person.

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Evil people will always find a way to carry out their plan to hurt others. Does anyone remember the Boston Marathon?

There are countless ways to terrorize mass amounts of people. With today's technology a madman doesn't even need to be in the same State to commit mass murder. Anyone trying to confiscate firearms only wants control. They want to reign over the law abiding citizens that they currently fear.

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takiotoshi said:

I do agree with a lot of the points you make but I do have a question for you, I'm a 42 and when I was 21 I was in working construction to help pay my parents my college education so please explain why a 21 year old


Yes mass shooting started before the wall and unfortunately it will continue as long nothing gets done, why a 21 year old needs a AK47 . I was chasing girls at that age, now let me ask you do you think a 18 year old or 21 is mature enough to be able have a gun, most aren't. What use does a person of this age have for a gun like this and please don't say hunting because if someone needs a gun like that for that then my advise would be to pick a different hobby.

As for me like you said I'm spewing nbc agenda , what about fox entertainment or any other conservative outlet who as soon as we have a tragedy like this if they find out that the shooter is other then a white person they intermediately start saying it was a terrorist attack. I not spewing anybody's agenda but I'm pretty sure you are as frustrated as me , every single time something like this happens is always toughs and prayers and that's it nothing else gets done.

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I had a Mini 14 and a 30.06 at 14 years old. I've never murdered anyone, nor have I considered doing so. I also had a shotgun, 22 rifles, and several other guns that my grandfather and dad gave me. By 21 I had a nice collection of firearms. At no point have I ever been dangerous.

I was in high school in the early 90s. Even then some of the guys would keep hunting rifles in their trucks. These kids never considered using the weapon against another human; they would hunt deer and other game before and after school.

Age in and of itself has nothing to do with being mature enough to own a firearm. Parental involvement, responsibility, integrity, and morals are severely lacking in today's American society. Age isn't the problem, culture and society is.

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takiotoshi said:

The families of 20 people would disagree with you.

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Wrong.

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takiotoshi said:

Here are the facts, a white person killed 22 people, injured many others and ruin the lives of a lot of people. Refute that.

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Why does the color of the killer matter to you? You keep calling everyone else a racist, but made it a point to tell us all he was white, as if we didn't know. Pretty sure we know who the racist is in here.

Dirks9901 said:

Put this in the ps section thread but ill also drop it in here

We are not addressing the root cause of the issue. Guns have been available to the public for over 200 + years. Guns are not the issue. We have multiple societal issues going on.

The problem is people keep labeling it as mass shootings. Are we concerned that there are mass shootings or mass killings? I’ll explain further.

Hypothetically lets say every single firearm vanished off the planet tomorrow. Do you think that mass killings will stop tomorrow? No. Do you think the people hell bent on killing people will just suddenly say “no more guns, looks like I can’t/won’t kill anyone”?

It won’t obviously. Don’t wanna be the bearer of bad news but evil finds a way. Once one of these ****ers figures out there are other ways and MSM and Social Media glorify it we will be right back in the cycle. Again. By product would be lots of normal people have no means to protect themselves.

Point is we are not addressing the actual issue of what’s happening. Gun control advocates are either naive, simple minded or the worst of all, want to have total control. I think a lot has to do with the 3rd option.

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This. One of the reasons they use guns is because that's what gets them the most attention. If all guns vanished today, they'd simply change their weapon of choice to whatever gets the next most attention.

03cobra#694 said:

My bet is Asian based on his name.

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Maybe. He could just be into anime or some other odd stuff.

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takiotoshi said:

Here are the facts, a white person killed 22 people, injured many others and ruin the lives of a lot of people. Refute that.

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What does race have to do with anything? Right now I'm beginning to think you're a racist.

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takiotoshi said:

The families of 20 people would disagree with you.

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I would not be here today if it weren't for firearms. On two separate occasions they've allowed me to live another day. Opinions only matter to victims in modern politics and that's disgusting.

Excellent, another lurker decides they have a set of testicles and must speak up against the injustices of the world!!!! ... on a car forum... yeah....