At least 18 dead, 22 injured in El Paso mall shooting

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Unfortunately two more people have passed in the past hour in El Paso, so it's 22 dead now.

And when it comes to why someone should have an AR or AK, why should we have handguns?
If your goal is to keep people from being shot and killed the tool used in nearly all gun related homicides and suicides is some sort of handgun.
If 18-21 is too young, what the hell has the military been thinking?
 

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As for me like you said I'm spewing nbc agenda , what about fox entertainment or any other conservative outlet who as soon as we have a tragedy like this if they find out that the shooter is other then a white person they intermediately start saying it was a terrorist attack.

I don't recall the shooters at the California festival and Virginia Beach labeled "terrorists."
 

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Yes mass shooting started before the wall and unfortunately it will continue as long nothing gets done, why a 21 year old needs a AK47 . I was chasing girls at that age, now let me ask you do you think a 18 year old or 21 is mature enough to be able have a gun, most aren't. What use does a person of this age have for a gun like this and please don't say hunting because if someone needs a gun like that for that then my advise would be to pick a different hobby.

Would you believe that some people use ARs to hunt with? Cuz they do. And they aren't chambered in lame ass 223 either

I have 2 5rd mags for my AR that use for hunting coyote on occasion

Guess what though...there are several semi auto rifles available for hunting that come in everything from 22lr to 300 win mag...but they aren't black and scary sooo. Remington 7400, ruger, browning bar, and a few others make them and they are damn nice
 

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I do agree with a lot of the points you make but I do have a question for you, I'm a 42 and when I was 21 I was in working construction to help pay my parents my college education so please explain why a 21 year old


Yes mass shooting started before the wall and unfortunately it will continue as long nothing gets done, why a 21 year old needs a AK47 . I was chasing girls at that age, now let me ask you do you think a 18 year old or 21 is mature enough to be able have a gun, most aren't. What use does a person of this age have for a gun like this and please don't say hunting because if someone needs a gun like that for that then my advise would be to pick a different hobby.

As for me like you said I'm spewing nbc agenda , what about fox entertainment or any other conservative outlet who as soon as we have a tragedy like this if they find out that the shooter is other then a white person they intermediately start saying it was a terrorist attack. I not spewing anybody's agenda but I'm pretty sure you are as frustrated as me , every single time something like this happens is always toughs and prayers and that's it nothing else gets done.

1. Just because you and these terrorists/murderers/mentally unstable people are not mature enough to own a firearm doesn’t mean other people are.

I have had guns in the house the day I was born. Started shooting at 8, was given my first rifle at 12, joined the Army at 17.

2. Funny how everyone here wished they’d hurry up and execute the killer yet you are worried that nobody has said terrorist when the media is parroting his mental status.

3. What use could a person have with a firearm like this? Ever hear of competition shooting?

Look, we understand your wrists are not adequate to hold a firearm but others do not suffer that affliction. You want to live on your knees, fine. Don’t expect others to do so. Want to live without firearms? I’m sure there is multiple stabbings in France right now to free up some room.


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Guess what though...there are several semi auto rifles available for hunting that come in everything from 22lr to 300 win mag...but they aren't black and scary sooo.

This. There are plenty of perfectly capable semi-autos but it's all about how they look that gets the reaction. Hell, you can put 30+ round mags in handguns or even a 50 round drum. The response time to treat that many people will result in a lot of casualties no matter what is used.

You don't see mass shootings in other countries but that hardly tells the story - compare stabbings, running people over with vehicles, bombings and even acid attacks. Then go look at violent crime rates when criminals no longer need fear their victim.

Young adults used to bring their hunting rifles in their truck to school every day, it was incredibly rare that anyone got shot. People have changed and not for the better. I'm not saying nothing can/should be done but to blame the tool used is an easy, knee jerk reaction to the problem that ultimately won't help much.
 

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The families of 20 people would disagree with you.

Mass shootings don't have to happen all at once:

D.C. sniper attacks - Wikipedia

Even the Vegas shooter could not match the number of dead a terrorist in a box truck was able to accomplish in France:

2016 Nice truck attack - Wikipedia

And hell, a simple match did more damage in Japan:


You going to have match and lighter background checks?

China allows no private gun ownership. Does that stop the loonies? Nope:

Terrorism in China - Wikipedia

So, how do you propose to stop human nature to be violent?
 

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R.I.P. to the victims.

Not sure why takiotoshi is in Texas if he hates guns so much and thinks 18-21 is too early to own one.

I don't care what color or ethnic-based person kills someone in cold blood. They are a piece of shit that deserves the chair.

Whenever a "white" person kills people, it is an act of terrorism and racism, mostly racism. Whenever a black person or someone else of non-white origin kills someone, it is barely reported on. See a pattern that only the shootings involving a white person as the suspect are heavily reported on?

No, it is reported on but called "Gun Violence". These clowns switch back and forth at will. When people are killed with something other than guns, they ignore it altogether. Their goal is simple: Total and complete one party control over every aspect of our lives.
 

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Funny story: I was at the Mall of America the the day that Al Shibaz (sp?) announced that they were going to massacre shoppers. Maybe it was 9/11 anniversary? In any event I had a dinner date there and I came strapped with a glock 17 in a OWB paddle holster with my sweater pulled over. You would have to look really hard to see the bulge and nobody notices anyways. I swear I could open carry and no one would even notice. In any event, as soon as I walk in I go to the directory. A non descrip guy walks up and as he is looking at the directory he says "bad day to bring that here." I ignored him and walked away but it kind of shook me up. I am not sure if they have some james bond xray shit but there is no way he would have known I was carrying.

People trained in spotting concealed carry can spot it easily just based on cues you don't even know you're presenting.
 

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Okay. I'll stir the pot on this photo. If this photo is accurate, we have a very high number of black people conducting these types of shootings (a little over half). If the U.S Census Bureau is accurate, blacks make up about 13% of the US' population. I'm not insinuating anything other than what I've observed.... In before someone says, "OP is a racist."
 

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Okay. I'll stir the pot on this photo. If this photo is accurate, we have a very high number of black people conducting these types of shootings (a little over half). If the U.S Census Bureau is accurate, blacks make up about 13% of the US' population. I'm not insinuating anything other than what I've observed.... In before someone says, "OP is a racist."

I count almost 65 of those people in the photo as black, and less than 20 being white.

Also in before "This dude is a racist"
 

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Okay. I'll stir the pot on this photo. If this photo is accurate, we have a very high number of black people conducting these types of shootings (a little over half). If the U.S Census Bureau is accurate, blacks make up about 13% of the US' population. I'm not insinuating anything other than what I've observed.... In before someone says, "OP is a racist."

You so racist.
 

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I was born in Texas but because of my name that makes me a illegal right!

Nobody can tell anything from your gibberish screen name.

Being born in Texas has little bearing on whether or not you should be here from a moral standpoint. I don't have enough information about you to make that judgment, so quit acting like a victim.
 

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