C8 Corvette making potential GT500 buyers rethink their options

sleek98 · Jul 30, 2019

I wish I didnt watch that video. Can I block channels on youtube?

I am wanting one more and more, but hell I dont drive my shelby enough to justify 2 cars sitting in the garage.

blk02edge · Jul 30, 2019

Corbic said:
I bet you that whole power pack just drops out the back like a Fierro and if will be even cheaper and easier to work on.

Looking in the engine bay of a C7 I doubt the C8 will be any worse, 2 post hoist and yea probably all drops right out the bottom just as easy

RedVenom48 · Jul 30, 2019

sleek98 said:
I wish I didnt watch that video. Can I blow channels on youtube?

I am wanting one more and more, but hell I dont drive my shelby enough to justify 2 cars sitting in the garage.

I mean, if you REALLY want to go back to stock on your 2012 for a 2020, I'll gladly swap transmissions and driveshafts with you.

GT Premi · Jul 30, 2019

A friend of mine played a drinking game where he would take a shot of Bacardi 151 every time somebody on SVTP makes a post saying how "Dodge/Chevy is killing it." He died of alcohol poisoning.

Smooth · Jul 30, 2019

03Sssnake said:
The car is definitely going to kill it! GM will sell every goddamn one of them and struggle to keep up with demand. I have yet seen a valid reason to hate this car, so far the reasons given are petty little shit, hate for the sake of hating GM.

7998 · Jul 30, 2019

Corbic said:
V10 M5 and V8 M3, rod bearing replacement is standard maintenance at 65k miles.

What kills be about Zer Germanz is they have historic issues that go back 30 years and just refuse to fix. Plastic Water Pumps, VAIOS issues that require a whole new head when it fails, window regulators, subframe cracks, airbags leaks, fiber optic stereos, Coil Packs, MAF sensors, electrical systems so bleeding edge they fail and cost thousands.

My G55 - ignition failure, Common problem, $1,500 to swap out a cheap Chinese part and flash the Ecu.

Another Benz failure is the steering column lock, the motor fries and you basically have to replace the column. $$$$ (or the DIY of remove the column, grind the welds, cut the lock, get a aftermarket motor, soder the wires, test the voltage, bolt in the former welds and reinstall and hope the EIS recognizes the motors voltage range and doesn't lock down the Ecu)

Legit Street Cars on YouTube, guy does a great job and is a huge Benz fan. But it's assining the amount of stupid fixes he has to do on what are 10 year old cars.

Euro cars should only be leased.

The fallacy of superior German engineering died after the R129, W140, & the W124. The new era of "good until the warranty is up" started with the A8, E38, & E39.

03Sssnake · Jul 30, 2019

7998 said:
The fallacy of superior German engineering died after the R129, W140, & the W124. The new era of "good until the warranty is up" started with the A8, E38, & E39.

Deutschland, Deutschland über alles

ON D BIT · Jul 30, 2019

Dusten said:
And the shit these guys accept as normal. My old e39 v8, cooling system replacement every 80-100k. Entire system. These ****s think it's normal.
Dude my ranger has 170k on stock parts. Gtfo
@Tob posted it elsewhere. It's high.

This is his quote:

Tob said:
CR has continually upped their capacity and increased production numbers through both public and private investment in Australia. Producing 1,500 CF cars is 6,000 wheels. Barely a scratch. There will be fewer R models. Name the other OEM's using CR for an OEM model...

As for their aftermarket CF wheel sales, when was the last time you heard of anyone buying a set of CF wheels from them? How many sets of those do you think they sell in the US? The number is very low.

Ford isn't limited by CF wheel production at the levels we are talking about. I've pined for a version that includes the GT4 wing along with everything else but the wheels since the moment the car was announced. Many pull them off anyway and go with a Forgeline, etc, as they are concerned with damage and replacement cost. That said, Ford would still strictly limit production of a version without the wheels too (but with the wing, etc).

He did not specifically say if they could produce 40k wheels. Just that they can produce more than 6k wheel units, I would imagine 10k units could be produced as well.
Could they fill the orders if Ford gave them 5k CF 500's and 2k 350R were ordered though?

stangfreak · Jul 30, 2019

Think its time to sell the cobra.

RedVenom48 · Jul 30, 2019

stangfreak said:
Think its time to sell the cobra.

Will you be able to handle a 21st century interior?

Dusten · Jul 30, 2019

ON D BIT said:
This is his quote:

He did not specifically say if they could produce 40k wheels. Just that they can produce more than 6k wheel units, I would imagine 10k units could be produced as well.
Could they fill the orders if Ford gave them 5k CF 500's and 2k 350R were ordered though?

The link he provided...

The company announced Friday it will spend $72 million to expand its plant in the city of Geelong to increase capacity from a current 10,000 wheels per year to 150,000. The company will also triple its workforce by adding about 500 jobs.

ssj4sadie · Jul 30, 2019

ON D BIT said:
This is his quote:

He did not specifically say if they could produce 40k wheels. Just that they can produce more than 6k wheel units, I would imagine 10k units could be produced as well.
Could they fill the orders if Ford gave them 5k CF 500's and 2k 350R were ordered though?

We know Ford’s game isn’t to saturate the market, so the suppliers ability to produce is not even the real question.

ON D BIT · Jul 30, 2019

Dusten said:
The link he provided...

When will that plant be up and running?
As of today they can only make wheels for 2500 vehicles. Of which Ford has about 2k vehicles yearly.

ssj4sadie said:
We know Ford’s game isn’t to saturate the market, so the suppliers ability to produce is not even the real question.

They can not saturate the market with CF wheels even if they wanted to today.

Dusten · Jul 30, 2019

ON D BIT said:
When will that plant be up and running?
As of today they can only make wheels for 2500 vehicles. Of which Ford has about 2k vehicles yearly.

They can not saturate the market with CF wheels even if they wanted to today.

How the **** would I know? Go back and read the article yourself.

ssj4sadie · Jul 30, 2019

ON D BIT said:
When will that plant be up and running?
As of today they can only make wheels for 2500 vehicles. Of which Ford has about 2k vehicles yearly.

They can not saturate the market with CF wheels even if they wanted to today.

The wheel supplier is not the driving force behind Ford limiting production. You know this, I know this. Why do you continue to try and act obtuse?

Corbic · Jul 30, 2019

If that was the case Ford would have made the Carbon Fiber wheels optional and at a premium price. Not selling a car because of a set of wheels is insanity from a business standpoint.

ssj4sadie said:
The wheel supplier is not the driving force behind Ford limiting production. You know this, I know this. Why do you continue to try and act obtuse?

Tob · Jul 30, 2019

ON D BIT said:
When will that plant be up and running?
As of today they can only make wheels for 2500 vehicles. Of which Ford has about 2k vehicles yearly.

You'll see previous mention of ~10k unit max along with other sources that stated higher levels of production. I can say that regardless of previous production numbers that production has nearly tripled in the last six or so months.

Output has almost tripled since the beginning of 2019 and Carbon Revolution is targeting production of more than half a million wheels a year.

Carbon Revolution expands innovative wheel technology operations - Clean Energy Finance Corporation (CEFC)

An example of what I was talking about, an older publication that quoted ~50k annual unit production (potential anyway) and this was Motor Trend in 2015...

. If all goes as forecasted and future automotive OEM relationships are as symbiotic as they are with Ford, production will reach 50,000 wheels per year by October 2016. It could ramp up to 200,000 annual units once its military, commercial cargo, and aviation sectors are in full swing.

Carbon Revolution: Rethinking the Wheel, Aussie Style - MotorTrend

Corbic said:
If that was the case Ford would have madw the Carbon Fiber wheels optional at a premium price. Not selling a car because of a set of wheels is insanity from a business standpoint.

I suppose one could bring CAFE concerns or simple reluctance to produce more in order to safeguard some sort of exclusivity, etc. But I agree with you and find it bothersome that you can't buy the version Ford seems so proud to flaunt everywhere you look. If they offered the CF TP car with a high dollar forging, that was still a fraction of the cost of the CF wheels, I'd still be all over it.

ON D BIT · Jul 30, 2019

I was not aware. Thanks Tob.

Tob · Jul 30, 2019

No biggie. There is lots of misinformation out there and I suppose you have to really dig to come close to what should or could be the truth. I think it fair to say that by next year anyway, it should be clear that Ford's limit is their own choice and not due to designated hardware such as the CF wheels.

Then again, how many of the GT4 wings can Ford's contractor of choice pump out annually? Dunno.

sleek98 · Jul 30, 2019

lexustech48 said:
I mean, if you REALLY want to go back to stock on your 2012 for a 2020, I'll gladly swap transmissions and driveshafts with you.

At this point it would be sell it whole or part it out. There isn’t much left that’s stock so putting it back to stock would likely not even be possible.

Might as well just pick up another 4 post lift and drive it when I can.

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