Ford is going to get railed

lexustech48 said:

...should have had 3 trans choices. A TR6060 with updated synchros standard, an optional 6R80 in a "Cobra Jet" street pack, and the DCT for the Road Course guys.

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me32 said:

And how much more would that add to the cost. Each added design adds additional cost. So if were at 80k-95k now that added cost could start at 95k-100k

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lexustech48 said:

I say let the consumer decide that. The cost is really in the DCT tuning. If Ford cant figure out how to easily and cheaply calibrate for an automatic its put in a shitload of vehicles since 2011, or a manual transmission then they need to gtfo.

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From an economic standpoint the costs would skyrocket were Ford to decide to offer three transmission choices for the upcoming run of 2020 GT500's. Retail cost of the '20 DCT is already over 20k. Minimize any economies of scale and the cost to produce rises accordingly. Add the cost to engineer and develop another TR6060 or a 6R80 and things get stupid - fast. Designing the rest of the car around three transmissions (calibrations, emissions testing, different driveshafts, NVH tuning, designing a service protocol, inventory of each, etc, etc) is far more complex than most would believe.

Tremec produces some rather robust transmission units. They may not always shift as fast as some would like but that's the primary driver of the use of a DCT here. Tremec acquired Hoerbiger over 7 years now to ensure the mechatronics end would be done right. This car will be scrutinized by the media and if these DCT's prove to be a disaster I don't see how it could get much worse from a PR perspective. And they've been in no rush to bring this one to market...

Hopefully Ford learned something and is not putting a shit DCT tech in the 500... But I wouldn't put it past them. Consider the issues with the 350 oil filters, burning, and severe NVH from that motor.

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Ford will come out with some kind of B.S. recall and the customers will get their cars fixed. I work at a dealer and see on a daily basis how frustrated customers are with these cars. The ones who are going to get screwed are the technicians, such as myself, who have to do the repairs. The clutch pay was almost cut in half when Ford came out with the "extended warranty coverage" for the clutch. Not only was the pay cut but now they require us to provide them with recordings of the clutch slippage so they can determine if the slippage is enough to justify replacing the clutch. The transmission design is a good concept but in reality, it's a disaster.