Thoughts on DCT

LostM

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I dont know who is trolling and who is retarded anymore.

Caveat, cman is retarded, the rest not sure.

Robert/pencil geek has a lot of spare time and had a deep interest in dct stuff since 2008. That was written roughly 2011(?)

Because of information like that, nearly a decade ago, some of us non retarded people can make educated guesses with tight msrgins for error.
 

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U post up results from someone that according to your posting "has no or little dragstrip experience", tests on roads and using equipment u dispute as "less than ideal".

He might be "Mr. Expert" on DCT operation and if u "CLEARLY" put that up front before the life story it would make u less stupid.

Guess what?? We are all waiting for performance #'s right? Where do u think these #'s are gonna come from? Let me guess for u Sherlock, people that test vehicles for a living for publications, the same publications that u call out as being less than stellar in their testing standards.

According to u, we should wait till u get a car to test because u are so much better than them....... Yeah, who's the retard now??

So what happened to the allocation? Dealer did u a favor selling it to someone else. Don't go wanting to make wagers till u actually have something to run dumbass.
 

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U post up results from someone that according to your posting "has no or little dragstrip experience", tests on roads and using equipment u dispute as "less than ideal".

He might be "Mr. Expert" on DCT operation and if u "CLEARLY" put that up front before the life story it would make u less stupid.

Guess what?? We are all waiting for performance #'s right? Where do u think these #'s are gonna come from? Let me guess for u Sherlock, people that test vehicles for a living for publications, the same publications that u call out as being less than stellar in their testing standards.

According to u, we should wait till u get a car to test because u are so much better than them....... Yeah, who's the retard now??

So what happened to the allocation? Dealer did u a favor selling it to someone else. Don't go wanting to make wagers till u actually have something to run dumbass.

Show me a magazine review that does it as scientifically as PG did.. :)

Or take my bet of heads up: 2 cars, 2 owners same place same time

Or take your own bet of dragtimes/ forum / owners compilation

Orr.. you realize your comparing 2 different things

Or.. you realize you dont read all the way through/dont read what u disagree with; Ive got my allocation and order in, it was a successful ruse to see how you and the other Canadian bundle of sticks responded :)

Damn your fun to make fun of :)
 

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Dumbass, like everyone else I just want to see a time out of this car as tested by trusted publications...…………..if I waited for you to get a car to test I'll win the lottery and kick your ass in my Ferrari. I could care less how Mr. DCT scientifically shifts his Dual Clutch tranny in whatever mode he chooses. If I get a car I'll just use my middle finger to flick the paddles and I would do a better job than both of you so you can take your stupid bet and shove it.

You feel better letting the world know you got your allocation??? You must lack confidence as a kid and want to be liked in the club, like I care. My car collecting plans are my own...……….no one needs to know shit till I have it parked in my garage. That's what confidence feels like bud, you should learn it.
 

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Dumbass, like everyone else I just want to see a time out of this car as tested by trusted publications...…………..if I waited for you to get a car to test I'll win the lottery and kick your ass in my Ferrari. I could care less how Mr. DCT scientifically shifts his Dual Clutch tranny in whatever mode he chooses. If I get a car I'll just use my middle finger to flick the paddles and I would do a better job than both of you so you can take your stupid bet and shove it.

You feel better letting the world know you got your allocation??? You must lack confidence as a kid and want to be liked in the club, like I care. My car collecting plans are my own...……….no one needs to know shit till I have it parked in my garage. That's what confidence feels like bud, you should learn it.

You do a lot.of typing,looking for online validation, for someone that says they have confidence..

A lot of hesitation on making an easy bet with at least 2/1 odds for someone with so much confidence :)
Do you not have an allocation yet, and you thinking I lost mine brought you joy, and then realizing it was a successful troll attempt enraged you even more, thus my successful allocation brought me 2x more joy than anticipated today :)

Keep reading them articles from writers, but do NOT read anything I post about mine please :)
 

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Not sure if anyone saw this, but at about 10:20 into the video, it's a clip of Vaughn Gittin doing a pull and you can clearly hear how fast the shifts are.

 

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Something must be wrong with my ears. Every video I watch of the car shifting, it doesn't sound all that fast to me. Or is it just horrible gear spacing that's throwing off my perception? Why couldn't they just use the GT350's gear spacing? First through fifth are pretty tightly spaced in that transmission. The gears in the GT500 seem to be miles apart.
 

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Shift logic and shift speed are not the same thing. Ford's trying to play word games. People have a lot of high hopes for this new DCT, myself included, but I have a feeling the end product is going to leave folks less than enthusiastic. Either the shift speed isn't going to live up to the hype or the gear spacing is going to be so mismatched that it renders the use of a DCT nearly pointless.
 

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Either the shift speed isn't going to live up to the hype or the gear spacing is going to be so mismatched that it renders the use of a DCT nearly pointless.
Do you honestly believe that Ford would go to all this trouble and add a major cost item just to render it useless via shift speeds that are somehow much slower than quoted or "poor" gear spacing?
 

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Do you honestly believe that Ford would go to all this trouble and add a major cost item just to render it useless via shift speeds that are somehow much slower than quoted or "poor" gear spacing?
I hope not, but in my 2014 they put a 6th gear that is worthless to get around gas guzzler tax so who knows.

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Do you honestly believe that Ford would go to all this trouble and add a major cost item just to render it useless via shift speeds that are somehow much slower than quoted or "poor" gear spacing?
Well in his thread on pic/vids he said the 350R looked faster than the tire smoking 500 so, yea. Im sure he does
 

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Well in his thread on pic/vids he said the 350R looked faster than the tire smoking 500 so, yea. Im sure he does

When you are talking about tire smoking GT500, consider the driver, that's sorta Vaughn Gittin's modus operandi.
 

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When you are talking about tire smoking GT500, consider the driver, that's sorta Vaughn Gittin's modus operandi.
I know, but some people dont consider that. They strapped a showman in rather than a real driver as Im sure they didnt want a published time. But nope. Looked slow lol
 

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Shift logic and shift speed are not the same thing. Ford's trying to play word games. People have a lot of high hopes for this new DCT, myself included, but I have a feeling the end product is going to leave folks less than enthusiastic. Either the shift speed isn't going to live up to the hype or the gear spacing is going to be so mismatched that it renders the use of a DCT nearly pointless.

Well aware of differences. We know the shift speeds already. Its fast. Very fast.
The logic is yet unknown and what was the topic
 

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I hope not, but in my 2014 they put a 6th gear that is worthless to get around gas guzzler tax so who knows.

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^^This. Like I said, 1st thru 5th are nicely spaced in the GT350. Sixth gear is generally useless at anything other than attempting to save gas. The '11/'12 GT500's 3rd and 4th gears are ridiculously spaced apart. I wouldn't say its 6th gear is completely useless, but it definitely isn't for trying to accelerate. So, yeah, I do believe Ford would screw up the gear ratios.

When you are talking about tire smoking GT500, consider the driver, that's sorta Vaughn Gittin's modus operandi.

Which I totally acknowledged in the other thread, but apparently somebody (not you) chose to overlook that and reached for the flamethrower instead. I guess I should've spoon fed the thread with the GT350R's Goodwood run video. :shrug:
 

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^^This. Like I said, 1st thru 5th are nicely spaced in the GT350. Sixth gear is generally useless at anything other than attempting to save gas. The '11/'12 GT500's 3rd and 4th gears are ridiculously spaced apart. I wouldn't say its 6th gear is completely useless, but it definitely isn't for trying to accelerate. So, yeah, I do believe Ford would screw up the gear ratios.



Which I totally acknowledged in the other thread, but apparently somebody (not you) chose to overlook that and reached for the flamethrower instead. I guess I should've spoon fed the thread with the GT350R's Goodwood run video. :shrug:
I know what you said, all I did is spoon feed the troll comment of the 350R being faster. If its obvious then that wouldnt have been said period as its an absolute waste of a comment
 

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You do a lot.of typing,looking for online validation, for someone that says they have confidence..

A lot of hesitation on making an easy bet with at least 2/1 odds for someone with so much confidence :)
Do you not have an allocation yet, and you thinking I lost mine brought you joy, and then realizing it was a successful troll attempt enraged you even more, thus my successful allocation brought me 2x more joy than anticipated today :)

Keep reading them articles from writers, but do NOT read anything I post about mine please :)

You're such a tool. Who didn't get back to who about this bet? For transparency's sake so the rest of the people here know what's happening you got a PM almost a month ago but I didn't hear back from you. If you know how to read I even conceded partly to your dragstrip demands on the bet and suggested a mod for each car (likely DR's) for the best results from each car when they go.

You had your chance for this bet, I heard nothing and knowing now you have no reason to run your car stock against a ZR1 stock I'm done AFA this bet is concerned. Sounds to me you lack the confidence that your GT500 can win against a ZR1 no wonder I heard nothing back from you.

As for your allocation, whether you found one or not again what do I care? Your money do whatever the **** you want with it. Nowhere did I ever say I was getting a new GT500 I'm shopping for a new ZR1 if I can find one. I'll consider a GT500 only if I can't find a ZR1 and I get all the details and performance stats on a GT500 and they are favorable. You want to get one even before you know what it can do...…………...your loss bucko if the car ends up being a dud.

All those posts mentioning your pencil dick DCT friend...…………...seesh forget a crush, sounds like you and him must share a room together. Just stay in there and don't come out.
 

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You're such a tool. Who didn't get back to who about this bet? For transparency's sake so the rest of the people here know what's happening you got a PM almost a month ago but I didn't hear back from you. If you know how to read I even conceded partly to your dragstrip demands on the bet and suggested a mod for each car (likely DR's) for the best results from each car when they go.

You had your chance for this bet, I heard nothing and knowing now you have no reason to run your car stock against a ZR1 stock I'm done AFA this bet is concerned. Sounds to me you lack the confidence that your GT500 can win against a ZR1 no wonder I heard nothing back from you.

As for your allocation, whether you found one or not again what do I care? Your money do whatever the **** you want with it. Nowhere did I ever say I was getting a new GT500 I'm shopping for a new ZR1 if I can find one. I'll consider a GT500 only if I can't find a ZR1 and I get all the details and performance stats on a GT500 and they are favorable. You want to get one even before you know what it can do...…………...your loss bucko if the car ends up being a dud.

All those posts mentioning your pencil dick DCT friend...…………...seesh forget a crush, sounds like you and him must share a room together. Just stay in there and don't come out.
There's a dealer order ZR1 FS on the lot in vancouver. no adm
 

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