NSFE Put. The. Knife. Down. Please.

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It is a sad world that we live in. The officers had to plead over and over again while waiting to be attacked before opening fire.
Its not sad. They should have to plead to an extent. You cant just open fire on people which in the past police did with no consequences. But at the same time they shouldn't be backing them selves into a busy street . you can see the officer was ready to cry while pleading. Shot gun would have been great for that situation
 

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Its not sad. They should have to plead to an extent. You cant just open fire on people which in the past police did with no consequences. But at the same time they shouldn't be backing them selves into a busy street . you can see the officer was ready to cry while pleading. Shot gun would have been great for that situation

Why do you believe a shot gun would be a better choice? What ammo?
 

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This was a bad situation. Escalated when they backed up into the road. LEO jobs is to protect themselves and other officers and innocent bystanders. This subject was acting aggressive, had a deadly weapon, and was not obeying commands. The use of deadly force was indeed justified. I sympathize with the officer. He gave many chances, nobody wants to take a life. He should have acted earlier. The individual was either mentally unstable, under the influence of some drugs, or wanted Suicide by cop.
Kudo's to the back up officer saving his partner. Should not have gotten this far.
Sad part is there are always people judging cops. LEO's main job is to go home at night to his/her family period! If some dumb ass doesn't want to obey commands and wants to test the officer, he is only asking for trouble. Listen to the officer, if not, too bad. Unfortunately it is the officer who has to live with taking someone's life, justified or not.
 

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This was a bad situation. Escalated when they backed up into the road. LEO jobs is to protect themselves and other officers and innocent bystanders. This subject was acting aggressive, had a deadly weapon, and was not obeying commands. The use of deadly force was indeed justified. I sympathize with the officer. He gave many chances, nobody wants to take a life. He should have acted earlier. The individual was either mentally unstable, under the influence of some drugs, or wanted Suicide by cop.
Kudo's to the back up officer saving his partner. Should not have gotten this far.
Sad part is there are always people judging cops. LEO's main job is to go home at night to his/her family period! If some dumb ass doesn't want to obey commands and wants to test the officer, he is only asking for trouble. Listen to the officer, if not, too bad. Unfortunately it is the officer who has to live with taking someone's life, justified or not.
Here’s where I disagree. Where was the non-lethal force utilized? Don’t these cops have tasers? It’s not like they didn’t have time to employ that method to stop the knife wielding idiot. Deadly force is a last resort when all lessor means have failed or could not reasonably be employed.
 

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Here’s where I disagree. Where was the non-lethal force utilized? Don’t these cops have tasers? It’s not like they didn’t have time to employ that method to stop the knife wielding idiot. Deadly force is a last resort when all lessor means have failed or could not reasonably be employed.

A knife is a deadly weapon, using their guns was the correct response. Had they drawn tasers and they were ineffective, he could have closed the distance and caused serious injury or death before the officer or his partner could have drawn their weapons and fired.
 

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Unless it’s eye box or central nervous hits pistol rounds don’t provide the kind of trauma to put someone down quick and hopped up on drugs must be even worse. Another good strategy is aim for pelvic girdle so they can’t walk or patrol rifle with 5.56
The pelvis would be my first center mass target.

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He wasn't out of ammo. He just really didn't want to kill the guy and since the guy dropped the knife he wanted his partner to tase him. They were both just too indecisive.
Here's the thing, the media make cops become indecisive like that now a days. Police are scared shitless to shoot suspects in any circumstance. In the back of their minds, all they are thinking about is how they will be on the news that night being Monday morning quarterbacked, ridiculed, and have their entire lives ruined.

It's a shitty thing what cops are being put through in today's day and age. And it's 100% the media and liberalism to blame.
 

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A knife is a deadly weapon, using their guns was the correct response. Had they drawn tasers and they were ineffective, he could have closed the distance and caused serious injury or death before the officer or his partner could have drawn their weapons and fired.
Only problem I see with that is the dude still got the cop in a headlock.... So almost a moot point no? The guy was not an idiot, he could have killed that cop, I just dont think he wanted to. He got exactly what he wanted
 

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Only problem I see with that is the dude still got the cop in a headlock.... So almost a moot point no? The guy was not an idiot, he could have killed that cop, I just dont think he wanted to. He got exactly what he wanted

Well he no longer had the knife when he got the cop in a headlock and the partner acted before the perp had a chance to get the gun and use it. Can't really say he wasn't willing to kill one of the cops in the process of his suicide.
 

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Well he no longer had the knife when he got the cop in a headlock and the partner acted before the perp had a chance to get the gun and use it. Can't really say he wasn't willing to kill one of the cops in the process of his suicide.
I didnt notice him drop the knife, but if he didnt... Gun wouldnt have stopped him from potentially killing that cop. Just my assumption that he wasnt planning to kill the cop rather his mind being set on eating lead, I know that is 100% the wrong assumption to assume though lol
 

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Here’s where I disagree. Where was the non-lethal force utilized? Don’t these cops have tasers? It’s not like they didn’t have time to employ that method to stop the knife wielding idiot. Deadly force is a last resort when all lessor means have failed or could not reasonably be employed.

The fact that the footage is public and the cops were not prosecuted would indicate that deadly force was absolutely justified.
 

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He wasn't out of ammo. He just really didn't want to kill the guy and since the guy dropped the knife he wanted his partner to tase him. They were both just too indecisive.

This.

It’s hard to be a badass yelling commands, as you’re backing up....

The perp had entire control of the situation, until he got a few extra breathing holes in his head. Baffling to me that they’d ask this guy for half a mile to put down his knife.

Should be a few times, and done, imo. He’s not going to all of a sudden start listening the 50th time you tell him, if he doesn’t listen the first few, send it.

Shoulda shot the asshole WAY sooner. It’s a life or death situation. Cops have a JOB to do.
 

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Only problem I see with that is the dude still got the cop in a headlock.... So almost a moot point no? The guy was not an idiot, he could have killed that cop, I just dont think he wanted to. He got exactly what he wanted

My statement is still on point, it has already been mentioned that these officers made mistakes, basically allowed this guy to control the situation and back pedaled the entire time. They should have dropped him much earlier on. This officer allowed the guy to close that distance.
 

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Here’s where I disagree. Where was the non-lethal force utilized? Don’t these cops have tasers? It’s not like they didn’t have time to employ that method to stop the knife wielding idiot. Deadly force is a last resort when all lessor means have failed or could not reasonably be employed.

Not with a knife attack. You wouldn’t believe how deadly a person can be with a knife vs. someone that is I’ll prepared (anything other than firepower).

That guy with the knife should have been dropped, the moment he started to make officers retreat.
 

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Here's the thing, the media make cops become indecisive like that now a days. Police are scared shitless to shoot suspects in any circumstance. In the back of their minds, all they are thinking about is how they will be on the news that night being Monday morning quarterbacked, ridiculed, and have their entire lives ruined.

It's a shitty thing what cops are being put through in today's day and age. And it's 100% the media and liberalism to blame.

Totally agree there is a lot of pressure on them now due to bleeding hearts.
 

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Here's the thing, the media make cops become indecisive like that now a days. Police are scared shitless to shoot suspects in any circumstance. In the back of their minds, all they are thinking about is how they will be on the news that night being Monday morning quarterbacked, ridiculed, and have their entire lives ruined.

It's a shitty thing what cops are being put through in today's day and age. And it's 100% the media and liberalism to blame.

1000% on point.


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