Meguiar's Hybrid Ceramic Wax

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Okay, makes me nervous as hell to just spray it over the flat black vinyl stripes that I just paid $750 to have installed . . . but if you guys say its not hurting anything, maybe I'll give it a go.
 

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13 pages. Who would of thunk. We need a thread on the performance or recommendations on different waxes/quick detailers maybe. Mindless ramble rousing on my behalf but there was some good info in this thread.
 

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13 pages. Who would of thunk. We need a thread on the performance or recommendations on different waxes/quick detailers maybe. Mindless ramble rousing on my behalf but there was some good info in this thread.

There's an entire sub-forum dedicated to this topic. You do have to weed through all of the, what I would consider, people advertising their work--but there is some good information in there: https://www.svtperformance.com/forums/shownshine-saloon.190/
 

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I knew about the sub forum. More about detailing and such. Also NastyGT500 drool worthy work is in there. Not so much specific or thread contain product talk though.
 

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So you are doing both, I thought they were both supposed to do the same thing?
I haven’t tried the HCW dry as like a quick detailed. I just wiped the cars down after drying with the Ice as a detail spray.
You guys try the HCW dry like an instant detailed for touch up?
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Well........I just tried it on my CTS V and, so far, I am not impressed.

I had already detailed the car with Pinnacle products and finished with their Signature Series ll wax.

I followed the instructions for initial use and the finish was blotchy and streaky. So, I soaked the car again and followed the instructions for subsequent uses. Not any better.

It was warm, 101 degrees and little humidity. As I dried the car, I had to keep spraying water on the rest of the car.

The finish was still blotchy and looked terrible. So, I put some HCW in a spray bottle with water (8/1 H2O/HCW). I used it as a quick detail wax, and after more work, the finish looked like it did before I started this mess.

The water beaded better before the HCW and I don't think it looks any better. All I hpoe for now is that the HCW helps the carnuba wax last longer than normal.

I never had this problem with other Meguires wax-as-you-dry spray products in the past.

I wonder if it's just a compatability issue with the carnuba wax.
 

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Well........I just tried it on my CTS V and, so far, I am not impressed.

I had already detailed the car with Pinnacle products and finished with their Signature Series ll wax.

I followed the instructions for initial use and the finish was blotchy and streaky. So, I soaked the car again and followed the instructions for subsequent uses. Not any better.

It was warm, 101 degrees and little humidity. As I dried the car, I had to keep spraying water on the rest of the car.

The finish was still blotchy and looked terrible. So, I put some HCW in a spray bottle with water (8/1 H2O/HCW). I used it as a quick detail wax, and after more work, the finish looked like it did before I started this mess.

The water beaded better before the HCW and I don't think it looks any better. All I hpoe for now is that the HCW helps the carnuba wax last longer than normal.

I never had this problem with other Meguires wax-as-you-dry spray products in the past.

I wonder if it's just a compatability issue with the carnuba wax.

This is one reason why I never liked the "spray on, hose off" technique. HCW does seem like a streaky product to begin with so that doesnt help it any, plus I think its impossible to get even coverage like that with a hose.

But so far its beading rather nicely after one pressure wash and hand wash in 2 weeks. Just like the Collonite 845, Sonax BSD and The Last Coat. Cant really tell a difference when I hit it with the pressure washer but in the mornings after a rain it seems to have sheeted the most water off by itself.

*cant upload the vid, oh well just beading was all*
 
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When I poured the HCW into the water bottle, it was pretty thick for a spray wax.
 

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I don't rinse it, just spray it on and wipe it dry.

As a drying aide??? I have one more car worth of Bead Maker before I try HCW like that, hoping it goes on better better with a wet panel vs a dry one. Did not like using it on dry panels with a foam applicator.
 
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Well........I just tried it on my CTS V and, so far, I am not impressed.

I had already detailed the car with Pinnacle products and finished with their Signature Series ll wax.

I followed the instructions for initial use and the finish was blotchy and streaky. So, I soaked the car again and followed the instructions for subsequent uses. Not any better.

It was warm, 101 degrees and little humidity. As I dried the car, I had to keep spraying water on the rest of the car.

The finish was still blotchy and looked terrible. So, I put some HCW in a spray bottle with water (8/1 H2O/HCW). I used it as a quick detail wax, and after more work, the finish looked like it did before I started this mess.

The water beaded better before the HCW and I don't think it looks any better. All I hpoe for now is that the HCW helps the carnuba wax last longer than normal.

I never had this problem with other Meguires wax-as-you-dry spray products in the past.

I wonder if it's just a compatability issue with the carnuba wax.
I agree it was streaky after the hose off. After hosing off and then blowing the car dry, it definitely is streaky and splotchy (great tech terms), but it cleans up easily with a detail spray and then looks great.
Better than other high end products like you mentioned?
Maybe not.
But to me, I’d rinse and then dry and then detail spray the car anyway, so adding the HCW as a spray on before the normal rinse doesn’t add much time and so far gives a better finish than not using.
I noticed it was much easier to wipe the car to clean after some hard driving with the instant detailer than without the HCW.
So far so good with HCW followed by Ice seal for clean up in my experience.
-J
 

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As a drying aide??? I have one more car worth of Bead Maker before I try HCW like that, hoping it goes on better better with a wet panel vs a dry one. Did not like using it on dry panels with an foam applicator.
Yeah, just spray it on the vehicle when it’s still wet.
 

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That will guarantee streaking.

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You sir are correct, just washed my Cobra and spritzed the wet panels as I dried. While it did streak it wasnt as noticeable as the dry application, I did have to go back and buff everything out so I suppose that would still count as bad streaking. Maybe will try diluting it some next time.
 

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I'm a believer.

I used Friday by spraying it on and hosing off. It is streaky and blotching at that point, but a quick towel dry and then light buffing brought out an awesome deep black. Yesterday, I got caught in a flash rain, and the water just beads and rolls off better than any wax/polish I've ever used. I drove out of the rain and the car dried as I drove; when I got back to my garage, you could barely tell it had been rained on.

One negative note, I had previously emailed Mequiars and asked about flat vinyl. They confirmed its fine as others have said on this thread. But, when I used this spray, the streaking/blotchy is even worse on the vinyl . . . and 10x harder to get off than on the paint. It took some light buffing and patience. Most of the streaking seemed to eventually dissipate on its own, so maybe it was more about the water than the ceramic spray.
 

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Another thing that I noticed after using it was the glossy finish. It looks fine, however, prior to its use, the Pinnacle wax had a "wet" appearance. Now, it has lost some of that "wetness".
 

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After using this product for at least 4 months now, I am losing my affinity for the Meguier's Hybrid Ceramic. It might be based on my own fault as I use it pretty regularly, like every wash or two & I wash the car weekly, as it's my daily driver. While the water still beads like crazy, the glossy smoothness to the paint has diminished. I never experienced this w/the Meguier's Ultimate Quick Wax, which IMHO, did a damn fine job too. I think I may finish off this container of HC (or not) and go back to the UQW.

Another thing I've noted is that this coating seems to attract dirt. Could be my imagination but I swear the car has gotten dirtier every week I've applied this stuff- perhaps an electro-chemical thing going on? I dunno, but after a rain, the car seems far dirtier than when I use the UQW. The lower panels becomes dirt magnets. Tough grime also seems to build up more readily too, around the edges of the mirrors and under the mirrors & along edges, the type of grime that requires something like Goo-gone or WD40 to remove.

Honestly, I don't know if the HC is responsible or not. All I can say is I never experienced this w/the UQW.
 
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