Weak sauce bud. The GT time was just a testing driver to look for issues before it was handed over to the mag and he beat the record. Was told to save the tires. Not a full run to compare to.
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Im not dictating shit, you had a bet with Kaneda that your stock GT500 will beat his Demon, you expect him to show up when its convienient only to you within a 24hr period in what 6 months from now? You have literally zero logic. You lost
Doesn't make sense, u dont think i or nearly every owner will get better times on a dragstrip than c&d on a regular road using vbox?
Do you think i wont get a faster time, unmodded, on a dragstrip?
Already addressed this,
Was my timeline made before kanedas bs? Yes
Can My timeline can change at my discretion? Yes
Do you believe kaneda will show up? No
Are you Feinsteining in search of made up issue? Yes
But its the internet, everyone gets a voice, even the sidelines cheerleaders
Holy shit Steve!!! You stated the car mags test "on a regular road" so for you to get a COMPARABLE TIME you should run your car "on a regular road" also to see if you can better the published time.
It's not comparable if they test on a regular road and you get a time on the dragstrip, obviously yes you should hopefully run a quicker time on the dragstrip because it's a prepped surface.
The ZR1 was tested a certain way on a certain surface, the GT500 should also be tested the same way on the same surface. Times are not comparable between the 2 cars if 1 car was tested on 1 surface and the other on a different surface...……………..do you get it or is it over your head?????
It's not comparable if they test on a regular road and you get a time on the dragstrip, obviously yes you should hopefully run a quicker time on the dragstrip because it's a prepped surface.
The ZR1 was tested a certain way on a certain surface, the GT500 should also be tested the same way on the same surface. Times are not comparable between the 2 cars if 1 car was tested on 1 surface and the other on a different surface...……………..do you get it or is it over your head?????
Its not that you changed the timeline, you made it 99.9% impossible to actually have a chance at lol. You sir... Lost
My point has always been extracting the best possible performance. How youre doing mental gymnastics is astonishing.
Why in the hell do I, or anyone that doesnt magazine race, care about 2 different cars, in completely unequatable conditions? Im anout eliminating the variables, you seem intent on keeping them.
When your ready to make a real bet. Let me know. No one is reading your 5 paragraph nonsensical responses, for any reason, other than to kill time on the toilet.
Best 1/4 mile comparison, on a real dragstrip, in stock form, or nothing.
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Keep reaching.
Explain how you expect him to race you within a less than 24hr window when you have no idea when you are even getting the car? How do you plan that? I see in the other thread that you now say anyone can race him, but if you go back and read your own words the bet was you vs him.
Im seeing this as you never having any intention of actually doing so. And dont go thinking I am a cheerleader, I have zero respect of any kind for that goo guzzling troll
Kaneda wont race anyone, and you taking his side, is laughable.
You dont seem to understand how to read, so i shall not continue to feed your need for attention.
No suprise you wont explain, day 1 dyno, day 2 tune. Cuz ya cant. Not very hard to comprehend, even if he did meet you at your roll racing HQ he wouldnt be racing a stock 500.. Anyway, sounds like others are willing to go. Are you putting your $500 on someone else beating him now?
Home slice, I'll run anyone. I don't care. It's just a car and it's meant to run. People saying, "COME TO THE POCANOS!" is not an offer I care to entertain.
I'm not the one ducking a run. I'll run any / all mustangs / cars. I live in New York City. Not one of you has actually PM'd me to do so. So yeah, keep saying I'm dodging the challenge.
Also, what the hell am I racing? All these Keyboard GT500 Owners won't even have their cars for 5 months.
How about I just buy all of these butt hurt people a steak at Wolfgang's tonight? 33rd and Park. Steak's on me. ON D BIT. You get a side of mashed potatoes.
I can alter my timeline as i see fit mom
He wont show up, he wont put a dp in someone s acct, he has no plans to show up. He wont travel to do it legally. He wont run, so yea, id say im betting on him to bitch out and keep my timeline intact.
Typical. Youll race anyone anywhere anytime..
. Except when challenged.
You have 2 times that are legit(pro driver). One was Billy Johnson running one lap while taking pics mid turn at 147 mph.
One was Jim Mero running lap after lap after lap with a so called oem vette until they get a time they are satisfied with. It would not be the first time GM modified a so called oem vehicle.
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You obviously don't get it. You can't even count the # of paragraphs my post has in your reply (BTW, it's 3 numb nuts).
The unequitable conditions you keep referring to is the fact that you are stuck on dragstrip performance when the mags don't get a time on a dragstrip. AGAIN FOR THE FINAL TIME I'LL SPELL IT OUT FOR YOU...…...IF YOU TEST ONE CAR ON A CERTAIN SURFACE FOR A COMPARISON THE OTHER CAR SHOULD ALSO BE TESTED ON THE SAME SURFACE TO GET A COMPARABLE TIME!!!!!! You keep saying dragstrip for the SHELBY like you hope it will do a better time than the ZR1 tested on the regular roads, how is that a fair comparison? You test both cars on EITHER SURFACE NOT 1 CAR ON 1 SURFACE AND THE OTHER CAR ON THE OTHER SURFACE. Is that too hard for you to understand??? Obviously it looks like it is. You're the one adding variables. The testing of this Shelby will happen even before you or anyone else get the car on a dragstrip, so the time the mags gets will be the time on a surface that the ZR1 was tested on. That will be a comparable test to the ZR1 test by the same mag. Do you get it????
You want dragstrip times, so either wait till MM&FF test this car (cause they'll test *OH MY GOD* on a dragstrip (probably with Evan Smith driving it) and look up a dragstrip time for a stock ZR1 (that's 10.36 according to CF fast list)) or you lin'em up and see who's faster in a real race, or wait for a comparison test by some mag where they have both cars together to test together. ****!!!! It's simple and you make it complicated.
The Jim Mero lap time I heard was when Chevy was doing reliability testing @ VIR for 24 hrs, they ran a ZR1 continuously for that time only adding fuel and changing tires and during that time period they got that lap time.
Too long didnt read, you dont understand racing or effects of different conditions, or reasons to minimize them, in the context of gps or "basic" roads, DA and traction.
We'll revisit this when the cars show up at the dragstrips
I fully understand racing, you just don't understand how tests are done when 2 competing cars are not available at the same time so a time gathered by testing is a guide to what the car can do. What your car can do in your hands could be better or worse than the testing done by reputable media conducting those tests. YMMV as they say.
Again for the final time, get your car and go ZR1 hunting (before you mod), this discussion is done.
Again for the final time, get your car and go ZR1 hunting (before you mod), this discussion is done.
Is it not convenient that they run hundreds of laps seeking the best one..vs a one and done lap while the driver is taking selfies in the middle of a turn at 147mph. Hmm which one was true test of lap time?
Don't be such a Ford homer. How do you really know he only took one lap, and happened to take a picture during it? Ford said so? BJ has probably taken hundreds of laps in the GT up to that point. He is a Ford Racing factory driver after all. And BTW, the car he tested just happened to be pre-production. Who the hell knows what adjustments that car has seen.
Ford has been know to modify their vehicles as well. Don't act like they don't.
They all do it.
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Don't know don't care. A lot of people have said lap times not done on the same day same conditions can't be compared so I'll pull out that wild card and use it.
No matter how you slice it, both cars are wicked and serious track monsters. BTW where's the selfie??? I see a pic of the gauges showing 6th gear @ 147 mph how do we know that was a pic during the actual hot lap?
No matter how you slice it, both cars are wicked and serious track monsters. BTW where's the selfie??? I see a pic of the gauges showing 6th gear @ 147 mph how do we know that was a pic during the actual hot lap?
Since the media and writers were all there I’m sure there’s plenty of witnesses for the shakedown lap. I do believe BJ was asked if he could have gone faster.
You are correct BJ has hundreds of laps in the street GT and probably many in the GT at VIR.
Yes we all know that all manufacturers test and tune for lap times but there is plenty of differences. Such as Porsche driving down their GT2RS running laps then driving back vs Ferrari trailering their 488 Pista with 5 Ferrari engineers/tuners to get the best time and then trailering it back. One is not like the other.
As for the differences, let’s ask DBK/editors/engineers who have seen both Ford and GM in action.
Homer? I can’t stand what Ford has done the last 3 years. I’m more likely to buy a Tacoma, JL, Charger as I am with any Ford.
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