Um... Why is there bickering back and forth trying to compare the GT500 to a ZR1?? The cars aren't remotely in the same class. A 2-seater, 3600 lbs sports car (a porker in its own right) vs a 4-seater, 4100+ lbs sports coupe essentially inching its way up to land whale status like the Charger?
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What does the class have to do with anything? Did you read back to when this whole debacle started? Someone (gee I wonder who it is...…) claimed that I was wrong in saying the ZR1 will be faster than this Shelby and wanted to put money on it, only later do we know that the only chance that person would have at beating a stock ZR1 is if the Shelby is modded before showing up at the track.
These cars are more alike than you think...……….SC V8, RWD, 700++hp...…………..tell me if you drove this Shelby and a ZR1 pulled up to race you'd do a U turn and bolt it out of there??? Yeah maybe that would be the smart choice cause most likely you'd get your ASS handed to you.
FYI, the 3600 lbs porker has a P/W ratio of 4.9 lbs/hp, the Shelby at a friendly 4000 lbs (I'm being nice but it'll be heavier) is 5.26 lbs/hp...…………...it's not even CLOSE!!!!!
These cars are more alike than you think...……….SC V8, RWD, 700++hp...…………..tell me if you drove this Shelby and a ZR1 pulled up to race you'd do a U turn and bolt it out of there??? Yeah maybe that would be the smart choice cause most likely you'd get your ASS handed to you.
FYI, the 3600 lbs porker has a P/W ratio of 4.9 lbs/hp, the Shelby at a friendly 4000 lbs (I'm being nice but it'll be heavier) is 5.26 lbs/hp...…………...it's not even CLOSE!!!!!
I guess your flux capacitor isn't working properly, but if you go back in time to like page 7 you'll realize that you wanted to make a wager and nowhere in that quote from you did you say you wanted to run a stock ZR1 with your MODDED Shelby. Nice try thinking you could bait someone into a wager but I'm not stupid.
Like you said, owners have a vested interest in winning, so once you get your car to ensure a stock ZR1 doesn't mop the floor with you that would be the only way you would win this race.
I'll give you credit though, only idiots show up to race in a stock car, plenty of modded ZR1's out there and they will still go quite a bit faster than what this Shelby will run, even modded.
Are you bored???? Guess there's too much time on your hands since there's no car yet to race with...……...get that car and show me, don't tell me what you can do with it:
He's about to backtrack or make excuses HARD with the Kaneda race too so it seems. @Kaneda is already owed $500 IMO
Im not arguing against him. Im arguing thst Cman is adamant about ONLY using his times as a basis for the bet. His time is the only stock 1/4 mile validation. And to use the magazine reviews as gospel, ie 1/4 mile extrapolated froma vbox on a regular road.
I think u see the issue with that, in context now
Wut?
What do you mean wut? You have a bet with Kaneda yet you plan to mod your car day 2, hows that work?
Well that’s easy.... He outed his own hustle... “Baun stalk, bro’”....
Im not about to let that go either, he's already backed out of this so called race or admitted to cheating... Im no fan of Kaneda but he's owed money hahaha
I didnt know what u were referencing wo a quote.
1- if u think hes actually going to show up, youre an idiot.
2. As soon as the delivery date of car is expected, i wil.pressure him more to set a date. Day 2 can wait, but anyone with a brain wouldnt hold their breathe on a guy not willing to put the $DP in someone's hands.
Sorry to disappoint
You are whacked. You stated you had no problem comparing times between a ZR1 and GT500 on a road course (I chose C&D Lightning Lap as an example). C&D also does their standard acceleration testing, they have already tested a ZR1 using whatever method they use to get times, the same method will be used when they get their hands on a GT500. Chances are good they will test at the same place using the same equipment. The only variables are weather and testing on different days.
The GT500 will have a time as tested by them, so what is your problem??? The car will have a time and it will either be faster or slower than the ZR1 time tested the same way. Then you throw in...…………………. the test is not on a dragstrip, the road they test on is crap etc etc. so I say let's see what time the Shelby will get if Evan drives it ON A DRAGSTRIP and that's a problem for you. You're crying about real world results and only you should get a time when you get your car etc etc. The problem is you are not trustworthy in stating you will run your car STOCK cause you are modding the instant you get it.
So you want real world results????? Ok Corvette forum has a 2019 ZR1 fast list and the fastest stock time out of a ZR1 on a dragstrip is [email protected], with DR's that car did [email protected].
You still think a 2020 GT500 stock or on a tire is going to beat those times???? You started it with the wager thing I just told you the truth about the performance of the ZR1 and the unknown GT500. There are so many things stacked against the Shelby there is no way it will be faster than a ZR1 but you don't believe me so I'm just going to tell you to STFU, get your car and run the f-ing thing how you want to run it and you will still be seeing ZR1 taillights getting smaller ahead of you. That's the truth!!!!!
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This... Day two modded... Now you are giving him a ONE day window to do it? No, that is wrong as you never previously stated these retarded conditions, now if I were Kaneda id say you are the one who isnt trust worthy. Would have been an easy win for you as I agree he never would have showed up but you now 100% lost that right to claim
I think this GT500 may be quicker than some think. Here is a run with a Ford GT and a ZR1. From what I hear the GT500 will liiely be quicker and even faster on some road courses than the Ford GT.
^ nobody really knows what the FGT does on a roadcourse though because it has never been instrument tested on a same day scenario. I would highly doubt in the same conditions it would be slower than the GT500. The physics are not there.
The FGT had the full course VIR lap record for like a week before the ZR1 beat it:
ZR1-Upmanship: Corvette ZR1 Tops Ford’s GT Fast Lap at VIR | News | Car and Driver
ZR1-Upmanship: Corvette ZR1 Tops Ford’s GT Fast Lap at VIR | News | Car and Driver
The factory drivers have. Not saying there have been any claims, but there has been talk.
Not really a same day comparison, we dont know how much effort was put into that GT run. I do believe the ZR1 and GT would be door to door though, the GT500, not so much
There ya go. Thats using tht tiny brain of yours. Ill accept that.
I would have suggested it, but your theory on not believing anyone had me thinking y would u believe ANYONE online..
But yes.
Ill take that.
Sorry, you dont get to dictate rules from the sidlines.
My attempt at logic defies you I suppose.
What if i got called into work for day 2? Oh no, i would have lied! What if it rains for my day 1!? Or worse, its a day the tracks arnt open!?
What if a tune or pulley or belt dont arrive in 24 hrs!? Oh no, i lied, i didnt stick my so strict best possible conditions schedule, that was made before this bet? Shame on me ill be crucified on svtp
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I still don't see why you have a problem with a time gotten by a car mag, ok so maybe they don't test 1/4 mile on a dragstrip but again Road & Track got 10.6 with a ZR1, if they got a GT500 tested the same way and also got 10.6 would you be happy or would you cry foul because it wasn't on a dragstrip?
Tell you what...………..forget the stupid bet. When C&D has a 1/4 mile time for a GT500, run your car STOCK (that means no mods done, your tiny brain can handle that right????) on a regular road just like them and let's see what et you come up with. You would only be quicker or slower than the published time, get it????
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