How much money do you estimate it taking for you to never have to work again? Think the lottery.

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The question was if you could retire today how much would you need.
One response was $2k a week for 50 years. While that equals $104k a year today, it would only be $37k a year in 30 years and $18k a year in 50 years. For me that is not enough to live on.

Now if it was $5 million up front and you could live off the interests without touching the principle. That’s entirely different.


Back to your point, I agree they should have lived on less than they make and saved for retirement. But it’s not that easy.

In the 80’s $40k a year is a lot, the new mustang GT sells for $10. A lot of adults say/think living on $40k a year with paid for house piece of cake. 20/30 years later that new mustang GT is now $50k their $500k paid for house and $40k in income goes nowhere.

My point being trying to live on $100k a year even with a paid for house will be difficult in 30 years.

I get you. Depends on the person, their location, and priorities. Then they don't buy a brand new $50k Mustang GT if they can't afford it. For me $2k a week after tax would be a sweet deal with more than half left over most months. People think they need a bazillion dollars to retire. It's all in the person's head.
 

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Lol that's exactly how it works! If you're not working you need a hobby or something to keep you going and give you a goal and purpose. You must have goals always.
I feel like the best people to retire early are the ones that consistently run out of day. I have more hobbies or things I want to learn than I have time but I know a lot of people who get off work and kill 5 hours on the sofa every evening. Those people are doomed if they win the lottery and retire early IMO.
 

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I get you. Depends on the person, their location, and priorities. Then they don't buy a brand new $50k Mustang GT if they can't afford it. For me $2k a week after tax would be a sweet deal with more than half left over most months. People think they need a bazillion dollars to retire. It's all in the person's head.
It’s before tax and like I said before in 30 years it would only be $700 a week pretax.

I would much rather have the 5 million up front and $10k per week after inflation pretax than $950 a week pre tax.
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Even getting a $1 million up front is better than $5 million paid out over 50 years.
 
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Been pretty much retired five years. I was on straight commission the last 25 years and self employed the last half of that. Wife, two kids, house, educated the two kids, blah, blah.

In the early '90's I did some long term retirement planning based on expected inflation, expected return on my investments, and how much I planned to sock away every year. I figured I'd need about $1.8 million to retire, and I was saving 10-15% of my earnings every year while earning a very good living three out of every four years (my business was wildly cyclical). I kept rainy day cash tucked away for the bad years so I never dipped into retirement savings.

In conclusion, $1.8 million was not enough, and saving 10-15% a year was not enough. Fortunately, I had some unexpected things drop in my lap that saved my bacon, but whatever you are saving? Save more.
 

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10 mil would put me well above my current lifestyle and me or the wife wouldn’t have to step foot another day at work again.

That buys a nice house and land and pays off any debt. It equates to 200k a year for 50yrs which doubles our current income of 90k a year so we would be in a great spot.

We aren’t materialistic people so we don’t need much and live modestly and at that point its more than either of us has ever had
 

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Been pretty much retired five years. I was on straight commission the last 25 years and self employed the last half of that. Wife, two kids, house, educated the two kids, blah, blah.

In the early '90's I did some long term retirement planning based on expected inflation, expected return on my investments, and how much I planned to sock away every year. I figured I'd need about $1.8 million to retire, and I was saving 10-15% of my earnings every year while earning a very good living three out of every four years (my business was wildly cyclical). I kept rainy day cash tucked away for the bad years so I never dipped into retirement savings.

In conclusion, $1.8 million was not enough, and saving 10-15% a year was not enough. Fortunately, I had some unexpected things drop in my lap that saved my bacon, but whatever you are saving? Save more.
Exactly what I’ve been trying to say! Thank You
 

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I already hit the lottery and quit workin but I’m not sayin what it took or givin any figures. That’s only my business.
Guess you ain't OG Bro.

10 mil would put me well above my current lifestyle and me or the wife wouldn’t have to step foot another day at work again.

That buys a nice house and land and pays off any debt. It equates to 200k a year for 50yrs which doubles our current income of 90k a year so we would be in a great spot.

We aren’t materialistic people so we don’t need much and live modestly and at that point its more than either of us has ever had
Plus, Camaros are cheap.
 

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for me that would be about 30-40 not working years LOL. So probably about 40 million. But hell, I'd be fine with a 10 mil jack pot =) ....That being said my father is so ****ing lucky, he'd be the one to win, not me
 

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To walk away today? Probably a 20-50mil lump sum before tax pot.

But I'd take a 1-5mil pot, pay off the house, pick up a new toy or 2, invest the rest then work another 10-12 years while continuing to put away 15% annually before matching then retire.
 

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I have expensive tastes and habits. It would be a solid $50M before I would walk away from work (knowing that would net me around $20M after everything).
 

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Debt free, house and toys[ muscle/sports car+ motorcycle-nothing exotic on either] paid for, nice daily paid for[ who knows what that would be something around $50x ish.]
4% of 4m[ conservative investing] is $160k I can hang with that.
So 5m net, 1m to pay off/spend on stuff [ see above] 4m invest.
 

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For me, an inflation adjusted $5m would be more than enough.

•$2m in 4-5% tax free muni bonds and safe mutual funds for stable growth ahead of inflation. I’d let this reroll into a bigger portfolio of safe crap.
•$2M in rental properties like 6 plexes etc with portions of rents tied in to site management companies that I would research and entrust but also hold to the fire.
•$1m to play with with about $750,000 of it in free lance business flips/relaunches and $250k of it in option spreads and short term high yield stock portfolios and mutual funds.

I’d hope to average about 9.5-12% that way which would be $475-600k a year. Taxes at ~15-25% plus prop etc would leave me the $300-400k of it conservatively.

I’d live on $200k with my future fam and reinvest the extra $100k as I saw fit based on market conditions.
 

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