LOOKBACK: Eddie THE BEAST predicts WSM win after 500kg Deadlift

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I totally agree with not dropping weight for powerlifting. I’m not trying to argue with you.


Weighted hypertension’s. 3 sets 10 reps every back workout.
I’m sorry though I hate giving weight training advice over the internet. In person I can help anyone.


I agree. They are two very different sports.


I think at this point there is such a good wealth of information and approaches that unless a person is in a targeted sport, it’s always good to try different approaches and see how not only their body responds but how much they actively enjoy a given program layout.

The reality for the average person is that they could likely loosely track caloric intake and just lift consistently and achieve a basic goal.

I’ll also add I’m far from a trainer, I simply lack the time to fully immerse myself into the field as the science behind it is ever getting better. So my advice is simply that and the best advice I can give to anyone looking to do above average or yield optimal results no matter the lifting platform they follow is fine a reputable coach. Having a knowledgeable and unbiased reviewer of ones progress can be priceless.
 
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Weighted hypertension’s. 3 sets 10 reps every back workout.
I’m sorry though I hate giving weight training advice over the internet. In person I can help anyone.
Thanks Bruno - I needed that kick in the ass! I have been doing lazy hyperextensions with bodyweight only and after your reminder started with a 45 lbs plate. I used to do weighted extensions 25 years ago lol! I will increase it a bit and my back feels much better. My mom also gave me a few celebrex tablets which really help.
 

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Personally I would drop the third and fourth warm up set. My normal OHP looks like this

Standing OHP
Set 1- warm up with 95 for 8-10 reps
Set 2- light working set 135 x 5-6 reps
Set 3- working set 185 x 3-5 reps
Set 4- working set 225 x 3-5reps
Set 5- working set 245 x 3-5 reps

Then I roll into the rest of my work out with no more warm up sets on any of the lifts. The rest of my shoulder day is-

Seated press 5 sets x 8-12 reps each preferably with dumbbells but I’ll also utilize a straight bar set up of the gym has it

Bradford bar press 5 sets max rep each set with just the bar or light light weight added on the top two sets

Low pulley face pulls 4 sets at 8-12 reps one last set max rep range

Reverse cable cross over 4 sets 10-15 reps one last set max rep range

DB last raise 4 sets 10-15 reps one last set max rep with a drop set

Shrugs 4 sets 10-15 reps one last set max rep with a drop set.

This is generally a lot more volume which works great for me as I suffer from rotator cuff issues and collarbone pain from previous accidents or injuries over the years.

I would say if the supports help you then utilize them but also make sure you do plenty of accessory work to build the smaller groups in the shoulder area. The weight you’re moving is damn impressive, I’ve yet to cross the 300 mark on my shoulder press. I’ve been out of the gym for the better part of the last year and am just getting back into it so it’ll be interesting to see how quickly I get back to those previous numbers.
Thanks. I should note the 315 lbs press is in a smith machine - three 45 lbs plates each side with the 45 lbs bar. I would not be able to press that with a free bar on a bench or standing because my back is not strong enough. Perhaps once I get my lower back up to par. I used to do shoulder presses in my 20s with free weights but stopped that a few years ago.

Next time I go heavy I'll reduce the warmup sets a little. But just curious how old are you? I am in my 40s and do require more warmup these days compared to when I was in my 20s and 30s.

Here Brian Shaw and Robert Oberst are doing easy standing shoulder presses with what looks like 365 lbs during training.


Eddie came very close to pressing 507 lbs - he could not keep his balance because of an ankle injury I believe. But he lifted it basically without issue. It is just amazing how strong these guys are / were!
 
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Thanks Bruno - I needed that kick in the ass! I have been doing lazy hyperextensions with bodyweight only and after your reminder started with a 45 lbs plate. I used to do weighted extensions 25 years ago lol! I will increase it a bit and my back feels much better. My mom also gave me a few celebrex tablets which really help.

No worries.

There are so many exercises, planks, accessory work that go into back I couldn’t list them all here. I only do that stuff in person now, but you sound like you know what you are doing.
 

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Thanks. I should note the 315 lbs press is in a smith machine - three 45 lbs plates each side with the 45 lbs bar. I would not be able to press that with a free bar on a bench or standing because my back is not strong enough. Perhaps once I get my lower back up to par. I used to do shoulder presses in my 20s with free weights but stopped that a few years ago.

Next time I go heavy I'll reduce the warmup sets a little. But just curious how old are you? I am in my 40s and do require more warmup these days compared to when I was in my 20s and 30s.

Here Brian Shaw and Robert Oberst are doing easy standing shoulder presses with what looks like 365 lbs during training.


Eddie came very close to pressing 507 lbs - he could not keep his balance because of an ankle injury I believe. But he lifted it basically without issue. It is just amazing how strong these guys are / were!

I’m 33 so a bit younger but I’m familiar with back problems thanks to a motorcycle accident and then a major car accident as well as various shoulder injuries along the years. That said though, always work with in your comfort level as no two people are the same.

For the heavy sets the smith machine is fine, you are still working the target muscle groups and will still see progression. I would suggest working in more free weight based form though and lighten the weight making volume the focal point while you see how your back responds. This will help improve overall core strength as well.

Eddie hall is a beast, basically this small ball of muscle and he for sure has some crazy impressive lifts/even attempts.
 

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I’m 33 so a bit younger but I’m familiar with back problems thanks to a motorcycle accident and then a major car accident as well as various shoulder injuries along the years. That said though, always work with in your comfort level as no two people are the same.

For the heavy sets the smith machine is fine, you are still working the target muscle groups and will still see progression. I would suggest working in more free weight based form though and lighten the weight making volume the focal point while you see how your back responds. This will help improve overall core strength as well.

Eddie hall is a beast, basically this small ball of muscle and he for sure has some crazy impressive lifts/even attempts.
Sounds good. Thanks for the tips. Arnold only works in machines these days but he is in his 70s now. I also see no shame in using them. I'd rather still be mobile like Arnold than a cripple like Ronnie Coleman who's in and out of surgery all the time in his 50s! But I will still incorporate free weights since I am still relatively young.

Yes Eddie is a beast but not exactly small. 6'-3" (6'-2.5" to be precise but he rounded it off because 6'-3" sounds more impressive) and over 400 lbs at his heaviest. He looks short because he is so bulky and standing next to Shaw and Thor most people would look short. He's done the smart thing by retiring and only wanted to win the WSM once. The toll on his body was too hard and he admits it has already probably taken decades off his life.
 

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Sounds good. Thanks for the tips. Arnold only works in machines these days but he is in his 70s now. I also see no shame in using them. I'd rather still be mobile like Arnold than a cripple like Ronnie Coleman who's in and out of surgery all the time in his 50s! But I will still incorporate free weights since I am still relatively young.

Yes Eddie is a beast but not exactly small. 6'-3" (6'-2.5" to be precise but he rounded it off because 6'-3" sounds more impressive) and over 400 lbs at his heaviest. He looks short because he is so bulky and standing next to Shaw and Thor most people would look short. He's done the smart thing by retiring and only wanted to win the WSM once. The toll on his body was too hard and he admits it has already probably taken decades off his life.

Hey I know plenty of people, myself included, who utilize machines for a balanced work out. I equate it to my same outlook as utilizing wrist straps when dead lifting. For me I want to work the targeted area as hard as possible be either through heavy weight or on volume days pushing out extra reps. What I don’t want is the weak link ie- my grip strength slowing me down. I don’t compete so there is no need to worry about my grip strength being a limiting factor so for my overall physique I push the lifts as hard as I can using ever advantage possible and for the weak links I work through accessory movements or other direct targeted movements.

Opinions will obviously vary on that but that’s how I look at it.
 

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