Partial Throttle misfire, Fuel trims opposite, P1131 and P1151 Code

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Have an 03 mach 1 I am working on. It runs very well under heavy throttle situations. At idle and partial throttles under certain loads it has a misfire. Has thrown codes for P1131 (lean on bank 1) and P1151 (rich on bank 2). Also, per the picture below, fuel trims as well as o2 sensor output appear to be almost opposite each other. Low voltage on bank 1 to command more fuel, and high voltage on bank 2 to reduce fuel.

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The internet tells me these codes can often mean a vac leak, but i have sprayed the entire engine down with carb clean while running and no change in idle. Also, one would assume a vac leak would cause both sides to be lean. I noticed both o2 sensors appear to be NTK, which are not factory and may be newish? I may swap the bank 2 one with the bank 1 and vice versa and see if problem follows. Any other tips? Injector problem? Am i being naive and should just replace both o2 sensors? Trying to do a little diagnosis before being lazy throwing parts at it haha.
 

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I don't see how you can mess up the O2 sensor connectors. One is attached to the trans harness on the drivers side of the trans and the other the engine harness.
 

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Car does have a newer motor in it.....

Would the left bank plug even be able to reach the right bank side and vise versa?
Its been a while since I've dealt with the harness on these cars. But I'm at the point I don't count anything out. I'm currently dealing with an engine swap because my son tried to do a PI intake swap that ended with a broken connecting rod and windowed block.

And the reason I mention the swapped plugs is because this happens a lot in the S197 community due to how the harness runs. And one of the symptoms is the O2's reading opposite like yours are doing.
 

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Its been a while since I've dealt with the harness on these cars. But I'm at the point I don't count anything out. I'm currently dealing with an engine swap because my son tried to do a PI intake swap that ended with a broken connecting rod and windowed block.

And the reason I mention the swapped plugs is because this happens a lot in the S197 community due to how the harness runs. And one of the symptoms is the O2's reading opposite like yours are doing.

I'll double check it. Thanks for the tip.

I don't see how you can mess up the O2 sensor connectors. One is attached to the trans harness on the drivers side of the trans and the other the engine harness.

Im sure its unlikely, but i'll double check.
 

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Update:

Put two brand new o2 sensor in. No change, still has a poor idle and maxed out (opposite) upstream o2 sensors. Also logged the rear o2 sensors to see what they were saying, and both of their values match.

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I unplugged both o2 sensors and started the car, and the idle was very much improved if not perfect. I'm now starting to think that maybe the o2 plugs got reversed somehow during the motor swap. I just amazon primed some o2 harness extensions to test that theory. Any other ideas? Also did a compression test for shits and giggles and it came back absolutely perfect.
 

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Take a look underneath the car and see for yourself. The drivers side upstream O2 sensor will plug into the trans harness.

I looked last night but its pretty difficult to see anything past the plug itself with the trans in the way. I agree it would be pretty hard to mess this up but I just can't seem to rationalize why else one bank would go max lean and the other would max out rich unless something like this happened.

I looked up top and I don't see any possible way you could get the injector harness backwards
 

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Update: It is possible to reverse the o2 connections evidently. I used the o2 extensions and swapped the harness and the car now runs and drives like brand new. o2 sensors operate as they should, and fuel trims haven been evened out.

Hopefully this can help someone in the future. My google searches of this problem did not come up with much if anything on this topic.
 

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