Flat Earthers - I don't get it, at all.

KilledbyKenne

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I can see both sides. There are arguments to be made for both. For the life of me, I have a mountain 63 miles away from that I can see clear as day that I shouldn't be able to see.. It's visible from the other side of my valley, too. I'd say 85+ miles. So I dunno. There are so many experiments that show other info than a curved earth.

With my basic knowledge of curvature and going off your location, you have 3 mountain peaks that should be easily visable from 63-85 miles away.

Mt. Evans-14,260 ft elevation, W of Denver
Longs Peak-14255 ft elevation, NW of Denver
Pikes Peak-14,115 ft elevation, S-SW of Denver

According to Google, Denver ranges from 5,100 to 5,700 feet in elevation. @ 85 miles distance you will lose approximately 4,500 ft in visibility. So even in the most extreme circumstance (85 miles away with standing elevation of 5,700ft), you should still see about 4,000 ft of any of these peaks.

Someone smarter than I am, please feel free to correct anything I missed or got wrong.
 
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An acquaintance of mine is a flat earth believer, or so he says. He started his spiel on FB a year or so ago. I haven't yet figured out if he's a nut, or just doing it for the attention. Social media fame (or the want of) has made people do so weird shit.
 

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Some folks can't handle the universe. Or the planet. They spend the intellect they have that would allow them to see a larger version of God's creation to build up walls and keep it out. One guy I know asked me, "If all these telescopes see all this stuff out there, how come I can't?" I pointed out that yes, the same light falls on your eyes, even in the day, but unless your retinas are 400" in diameter, forget it, you'll never see it. He then looks at me and says, "Aha! I got you now! The stars don't shine during the day!"

I can only blame myself for having wasted the time to try and talk to him.

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Oh wow! I can only imagine that YOUR eyes got 400" in diameter after hearing his stupid remarks. You can't make this stuff up! :p
 

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There are so many experiments that show other info than a curved earth.

Reference one.

Water droplets, absent other forces, are spherical thanks to surface tension.

I assumed the Flat Earth Society was really just a skeptical group and the name was playful hyperbole until I watched the Netflix doc.
 

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Reference one.

Water droplets, absent other forces, are spherical thanks to surface tension.

Laser tests that are miles apart.

I'm not advocating for round or flat. Sometimes it's just interesting to look at things a little differently.
 

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With my basic knowledge of curvature and going off your location, you have 3 mountain peaks that should be easily visable from 63-85 miles away.

Mt. Evans-14,260 ft elevation, W of Denver
Longs Peak-14255 ft elevation, NW of Denver
Pikes Peak-14,115 ft elevation, S-SW of Denver

According to Google, Denver ranges from 5,100 to 5,700 feet in elevation. @ 85 miles distance you will lose approximately 4,500 ft in visibility. So even in the most extreme circumstance (85 miles away with standing elevation of 5,700ft), you should still see about 4,000 ft of any of these peaks.

Someone smarter than I am, please feel free to correct anything I missed or got wrong.

I'm at 7645. The mountain is 10900 tall. I can see the lower third of it.. It's San Antonito mountain in extreme Northern New Mexico.
 

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We can find flat spots here, that would be miles across when brought up to planetary scale. Perhaps we should consider the possibility that billiard balls are flat, too.

I think the interesting thing to consider about Flat Earthers is not their "theories" or "evidence," but rather the psychology which drives them. They are like socialists in their disregard of facts and reason, but less harmful.
 

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I guess the moon is flat too? Just galactic pancakes floating in space.

How do these people calculate time with a flat earth? How do they explain lunar and solar eclipses? How about the temperature fluctuation at the poles vs the equator?

I can keep going with simplistic questions, but I think that gets the point across.

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I can see both sides. There are arguments to be made for both. For the life of me, I have a mountain 63 miles away from that I can see clear as day that I shouldn't be able to see.. It's visible from the other side of my valley, too. I'd say 85+ miles. So I dunno. There are so many experiments that show other info than a curved earth.
Step away from the bong. Lol

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Or look at the math and tell me where I'm wrong?
Please tell me that you are just messing with me to have some fun.

Astronomy uses math every moment of every day to calculate the orbit of everything in space. Round objects are orbiting one another on a precise scale. We understand moon phases because we know where the moon, earth, and sun are in relation to one another in orbit. Things must be round to allow one object to orbit another. We have a leap year every four years for the same calculated reasons.

Sun rises and sun sets could not happen without a round planet. The spectacular light refractions we see would not be possible with a flat earth. The Northern Lights would not exist. Ocean tides would not happen if the earth was flat.

I don't need to provide numbers. The numbers are available, but I am looking at things through logic. We live on a ball. Global travel alone proves this. You can go East or West non stop. You will keep passing the same places.

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I guess the moon is flat too? Just galactic pancakes floating in space.

How do these people calculate time with a flat earth? How do they explain lunar and solar eclipses? How about the temperature fluctuation at the poles vs the equator?

I can keep going with simplistic questions, but I think that gets the point across.

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I wouldnt bother trying to pick apart their logic, it'll drive a man insane
 

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