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Probably the most dangerous race in modern day existence.

Undoubtedly. It's not even close.

I raced motorcycles on permanent road courses. These guys are on a whole different plane of crazy.

Talk about needing a wheelbarrow to carry your nuts around.
 

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Pretty sure there has been a death every year. 2016 saw 5 dead... Insane this is still allowed to continue lol
 

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Pretty sure there has been a death every year. 2016 saw 5 dead... Insane this is still allowed to continue lol
It is the racer's choice. Yes people die, the event is dangerous.

I think bungee jumping and skydiving is crazy, yet I would take my chance on this course. At the end of the day it's all about the thrill.

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It is the racer's choice. Yes people die, the event is dangerous.

I think bungee jumping and skydiving is crazy, yet I would take my chance on this course. At the end of the day it's all about the thrill.

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Completely agree. Never understood another’s resolve to regulate other’s choices, when they are unaffected.
 

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Why would it not be allowed? It’s not like they are forced to race....lol
Im stoked they still do it, its the riders choice. Im just suprised in this day and age with safety this and safety that they continue to go on. If people were dying that often in events in north america im sure it would be shut down immediately
 

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Im stoked they still do it, its the riders choice. Im just suprised in this day and age with safety this and safety that they continue to go on. If people were dying that often in events in north america im sure it would be shut down immediately
Roads are still open and people die driving everyday. You can't baby proof the world.

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Im stoked they still do it, its the riders choice. Im just suprised in this day and age with safety this and safety that they continue to go on. If people were dying that often in events in north america im sure it would be shut down immediately

I see what you are saying. Definitely wouldn’t be allowed here. Its a shame.
 

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My buddy saw it a couple years ago. He’s not even a Motörhead and said it was unbelievable. Could’ve touched the riders as they went by. They lucked out and some family let them set up in their front yard.

I def. want to go at some point.


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I see what you are saying. Definitely wouldn’t be allowed here. Its a shame.
It really is, next best thing round here is probably the targa newfoundland but I believe thats cars only
 

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There are very few things I would put my life at risk for. Racing at Isle is not one of them. I’m not saying it isn’t cool...because it is amazing...but I hate to watch something when there is such a high likelihood of someone’s life coming to an end. To me, racing there is as crazy as running with the bulls. No thanks.
 

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The TT guys are next level insane...I remember a clip of Valentino Rossi (Moto GP legend) at TT Isle of Man as a spectator and he paid his respects to these guys, talking about the balls it took to run the course flat out.
 

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Completely agree. Never understood another’s resolve to regulate other’s choices, when they are unaffected.

Are you forgetting the poor bastard who has to hook a couple of garden hoses together so it can reach the rock wall in front of his house? Someone has to clean up the mess when a guy hits.

What is amazing is how loosely the whole event is run. Bystanders, marshals and you name it are wandering around in easy strike distance. The people watching seem to not even be able to see the bikes approaching they are coming so fast. And yet like someone said, you could reach out and touch one.

One article online said over 270 racers killed so far. Speeds in excess of 200 mph. Imagine the lawsuits and awards that would result in an America. The court only wants the complainant to prove that the danger was reasonably foreseeable. How could you look at that and not foresee some danger? They can get the racer to sign a waiver but the spectators would make a fortune for their survivors.

Now I really want to go see it as well. But I might stand a few feet farther back than some...
 

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Are you forgetting the poor bastard who has to hook a couple of garden hoses together so it can reach the rock wall in front of his house? Someone has to clean up the mess when a guy hits.

What is amazing is how loosely the whole event is run. Bystanders, marshals and you name it are wandering around in easy strike distance. The people watching seem to not even be able to see the bikes approaching they are coming so fast. And yet like someone said, you could reach out and touch one.

One article online said over 270 racers killed so far. Speeds in excess of 200 mph. Imagine the lawsuits and awards that would result in an America. The court only wants the complainant to prove that the danger was reasonably foreseeable. How could you look at that and not foresee some danger? They can get the racer to sign a waiver but the spectators would make a fortune for their survivors.

Now I really want to go see it as well. But I might stand a few feet farther back than some...

Said guy who owns the rock wall is free to rent out his house for the duration of the event, and make mad money. In fact, many locals do. So, let's not act like they're forced to stay there, and clean up the remains of the rider who happened to crash into their wall while they were there, against their will. The people that are there want to be there.

As for the marshals, and spectators being close to the track, I can only assume you haven't been to many events in person. There are locations where spectators at the Isle of Mann get much closer than most other places, true. But there are many venues where spectators can get close enough to get hurt quite easily. In fact, just about any street course has locations like that.

Everything else about the race, while no longer sanctioned by the FIM, is run in about as professional a fashion as can be, from all indications.
 

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Are you forgetting the poor bastard who has to hook a couple of garden hoses together so it can reach the rock wall in front of his house? Someone has to clean up the mess when a guy hits.

What is amazing is how loosely the whole event is run. Bystanders, marshals and you name it are wandering around in easy strike distance. The people watching seem to not even be able to see the bikes approaching they are coming so fast. And yet like someone said, you could reach out and touch one.

One article online said over 270 racers killed so far. Speeds in excess of 200 mph. Imagine the lawsuits and awards that would result in an America. The court only wants the complainant to prove that the danger was reasonably foreseeable. How could you look at that and not foresee some danger? They can get the racer to sign a waiver but the spectators would make a fortune for their survivors.

Now I really want to go see it as well. But I might stand a few feet farther back than some...

You’re eluding to common sense and right vs wrong.

In my opinion, the Isle of Mann situation is right. Everyone knows what they are doing and risking.

Conversely, with the ********** lawyers and courts in the US, a thief can sue you for getting hurt while breaking into your house. Waivers hardly mean anything here and regardless, a lawyer will take your money to sue XYZ knowing you won’t win. The defending lawyer will charge the shit out of the corporation/business/whoever but is likely getting paid by the liability insurance policy.


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Said guy who owns the rock wall is free to rent out his house for the duration of the event, and make mad money. In fact, many locals do. So, let's not act like they're forced to stay there, and clean up the remains of the rider who happened to crash into their wall while they were there, against their will. The people that are there want to be there.

As for the marshals, and spectators being close to the track, I can only assume you haven't been to many events in person. There are locations where spectators at the Isle of Mann get much closer than most other places, true. But there are many venues where spectators can get close enough to get hurt quite easily. In fact, just about any street course has locations like that.

Everything else about the race, while no longer sanctioned by the FIM, is run in about as professional a fashion as can be, from all indications.

Ha ha. You're right. The guy with the wall could rent it out and actually make a cool profit. Agree. I have to laugh, though. It's like arguing with my wife. Any random example gets taken apart and an unlikely exception is offered up to prove once again that I'm an idiot. I'm pretty used to it, so no offense taken.

To clarify, I was simply trying to point out that there is always someone who is affected by every event. It never affects ONLY the participants. From the small effects like the guy who wanted to move that day but couldn't use the only access road because of the race (no sympathy for him, good of many outweighs good of the 1) to the larger effects like how the wife and 6 kids will cope when the sole earner father is killed as a spectator (much sympathy for them). And if he paid for admittance and was recommended that spot (blind spot on outside of corner, riders airborne) as a good viewing location by the organizers who are taking his money then you better believe a US court would be even more sympathetic. The organizers, with their greater knowledge of what a race is all about and the potential dangers involved owe a duty of care to the spectator.

Not debating the right or wrong of the game. Just that it couldn't happen in the US because these duties of care tend to be much more vehemently enforced.


Lol. I chose a poor example and paid the price. Hope this one slides by.
 

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