I'm sorry but people are so incredibly fast to scream "scam or fraud" these days. Makes being a seller so sketchy and uncomfortable. Condition on any used part is SUBJECTIVE. If you don't inspect it before payment then you're accepting the risk that it might not meet your desires. Sometimes that means you're out a lot of money. Buyers have to start taking responsibility at some point
2003 Cobra Engine w/ 25,000 miles
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Not in relation to this case, but it’s more on the seller to disclose ANYTHING out of the ordinary. It’s just the right thing to do. Staying quiet and then saying “well the buyer didn’t ask/check” is a shitty thing to do.
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I swear I saw this engine for sale a while back for suspiciously cheap... I remember all the powder coated parts.
But how is he to disclose an issue he didn't know about?
This reminds me more about a forged crank I sold years ago... With a spun bearing. Only wanted $100, had piles of photos and a video. Guy was cool as he wanted to try and grind it down and run Chevy bearings or some crap and it cost him like $210 for box, PayPal, shipping and crank
A year later... A damn year later, he's emailing and calling saying he's got $400 in machine work tied up in this crank and there is a nick in it that needs to be welded and ground and.. And... And... I'm like ain't no nick in the pictures and video I sent you... And you had it at a machine shop for a year.. And you grounded it... And it ain't my problem.
Sold a chipped Ecu years ago. 6 months later, guy wants his money back saying it's DOA and the board is fried. I ran the Ecu for almost 3 years before going standalone. I find his build thread, and how he shorted out his janky ass diy wire harness and caught his fuse box on fire trying to start his engine swap. Huh...
That's why I said not in relation to this case, because who knows if the guy knew. Obviously anything "out of the ordinary" would have to be known in order to disclose it. I'm just pointing this out in a general sense.
If some dude came back a year later saying the engine you sold me is blown/cooked/damaged I'd tell him to pound sand.
if you buy ANYTHING site unseen it's on YOU to ensure you're content with what you're. Yes ofcourse we all hope every seller will have the same or better standards than us, but if they don't then you have no right to say you were robbed if you haven't checked it out. You can call them names all you want but the responsibility still falls on the buyer unless and written warranty/guarantee is involved....and we know that ain't happening in private transactions.
Well I totally disagree. Case in point: bought a set of ARH headers on here. After pulling my K member, manifolds etc, I discovered the headers wouldn't sit flat against my heads. Discovered the dipshit had put them on a belt sander to clean RTV off and took over an 1/8th" off the flange. Runout was .250" from end to end. When I questioned him, he said he didn't know they were "that far off". Said he figured I could double stack the exhaust gaskets. So the ****er knew he had taken material off, yet didn't disclose it. ********** got banned. Just saw him on FB. Maybe I'll go throw him under the bus there for being a dbag.
So what when I buy headers in the future I have to ask the guy to mic the flanges? NO. Anyone would expect someone selling an unusable part to reveal it. Buy a set of wheels...ask if they are bent....
Maybe I should resell the headers and not mention that they need new flanges...its up to the buyer to ask/inspect afterall.
And I had every right to call that *** that got the boot from here names. He knowingly ripped me off
There are exceptions to every rule. In the end it’s pretty difficult to prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that you’re being dealt fraudulent parts if the seller doesn’t disclose it. I’m all for buyers protection in all cases. I’m just stating that sellers need to be afforded the same protection with regard to reputation. As a buyer being unhappy doesn’t always equal being defrauded
Ya man I copy what you're saying. In my case it was clear the seller knew. He just passed his problem on to me. Then thought we should split the repair cost (added up to more than a brand new set) lol. Wouldn't take them back and refund my money because his money was "tied up" in his 1000rwhp build. **** head.
I’ve only stated facts about the status of an engine purchased from this seller. I don’t care what your thoughts are. If you decide to work with him in the future, buyer beware.
Example: The mounting tab for the transmission fell off when I put the bolt in. No, I didn’t over torque... I literally turned the wrench 1 time by hand to start spinning it in. I discovered it had been JB Welded and sanded smooth before being painted silver!!
Just an FYI, I didn’t ask the seller to buy the engine back. I asked him to cover the cost of new pistons and I’d take care of the labor costs. I understand the buyer and seller both have obligations during a transaction. It’s hard to ever say if Josh knew about the issue or not when he sold it. Like I said earlier, it was my first time buying a used engine. Lesson learned.
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On another note. It’s very easy to follow the build progress on social media to know the progress over time. If I were out to try and do something sketchy do you think I’d really fry a piston and then come back after the seller?? No, I’d pull the engine, not say a word, dress it up and sell it. My ethics would never allow me to do that and the money honestly isn’t a big deal. I wanted other potential buyers to learn from my lesson and also understand my transaction with Josh if they ever decide to work with him.
jesus man, just a shitty situation all around.
I plan to build up a Teksid block and up the compression slightly. I already have the Fore return system installed with ID1050x’s. With Todd Warren cams and all the other supporting mods I should have a very high performing E85 2.3 TVS build.
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