10.8@127mph - 4200lbs race weight

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Hell, I just stated earlier the fastest stock demon on the east coast, as far as I can find, was 10.1/131

Looks like 9.8s at atco. Two demons, same night, same pass.
 

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Demons are nothing special. Name something ground breaking they did?

Australians love that car, you should ask them. By the time they are done paying taxes, transportation and right hand conversion they have invested over $200k...for a silly dodge.
So far, no bites on the GT500. Germany loves mustangs though...350Rs.
 

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I dunno man, if they lie about DA.. what else are they lying about?

And he ran 9.80 at Houston with a -1550 DA. Slightly better time but 2mph slower than Atco. Guess that 20mph headwind did its job.
 

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-1550 da? You gotta be kidding me.

I thought the demon ran 9.65@140 with -500 da.

You’re saying in -1500 da it still can’t run 9.65@140?

I’ve ran 10.1@141 with “756whp” (more like 675whp) at 5000ft with like 4500da iirc in 2010 with a car that had a full interior, 18” chrome wheels 275/315, and subs in the trunk... pump gas, lowered suspension, street car as can be.

What is so special about a factory 10 second car that can’t even hero run a 9.65 in private hands in -1500da that has a warranty but isn’t able to keep its diff from breaking when it’s drag raced on the drag prep stuff it can be bought with but if you put a brace in to try and save the diff they void your warranty?

What the **** did I just type? It sounds like a mess but that’s because the info is so perplexing...

Seriously that’s lame.

The demon is a 10 second car that can run 9’s on perfect occasions.

The gt500 is a 10 second car that can do everything else you expect of an $80k car like run on pump gas and tackle a twisty canyon.

Venom killed the demon. Your have to love dodge (that’s fine), drink coolaid (not my cup of tea), or just love the bravado (that’s fine) to buy a demon over a gt500 knowing all that.
 

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The 9.65 was in -1500 DA, but no wind. The rental had similar DA but a 20mph headwind.

Already owned 7 demons. I’m ready for the next big thing, the GT500.
 

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And he ran 9.80 at Houston with a -1550 DA. Slightly better time but 2mph slower than Atco. Guess that 20mph headwind did its job.

and also caught lying.. and we all know how far ego/internet racers will go for fame.
 

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and also caught lying.. and we all know how far ego/internet racers will go for fame.

I wouldn’t go as far as accusing him of lying. Maybe the DA was higher at an earlier time and he stuck with it. We all know the DA can drastically change through out the day. You posted bad info about the fastest demon at Atco and no one jumped on your neck or called you a liar. We the info we have now, DA is irrelevant at this point. He ran the same times at a lower MPH at a much better DA...so there’s that.
 

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I wouldn’t go as far as accusing him of lying. Maybe the DA was higher at an earlier time and he stuck with it. We all know the DA can drastically change through out the day. You posted bad info about the fastest demon at Atco and no one jumped on your neck or called you a liar. We the info we have now, DA is irrelevant at this point. He ran the same times at a lower MPH at a much better DA...so there’s that.

at no point in the day was the DA above +28ft, which is still less than actual ft above seal level of atco. The weather station is 4 miles away in cherryhill, which, as far as the last 20 years of my own data collection at atco, is within a few ft of the weather station/dragtimes data. he purposely posted false information, which any sane person in racing means he lied. so no logical person could conclude that he would NOT lie again on small matters again, aka "stock" or any other "omitted" modifications, or as Ill refer to them from now on in reference to the Demon crowd "stockifications". His name sounds ultra-familiar as well. Im going to dive deeper into this.

This is also the guy that has lightweight braille battery and aftermarket wheels and still claims "stock", yes?

Im just gathering a full list of "stockifications" I (+3 friends) can do to the 500 when it arrives and I/we hit atco or mir or cecil in -4500 DA with $500 of glue, to claim the record for fastest STOCK warrantied street car



I never posted in absolutes, i said the fastest I could find.

.03 difference, and 2 mph, in better DA tells us he lied about something we havent caught yet... well, to those of us that know racing anyway
 

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Why are all you guys comparing the 2020 GT500 to a Demon ? More correct comparison would be the 2019 Hellcat Redeye with 797 HP on 91 octane and in widebody configuration it's supposed to run high 10s on street tires and mid 10s on drag radials. Demon was a purpose built street legal drag car, that isn't even in production anymore.

2019 Dodge Challenger Hellcat Redeye Pictures and Specs
 
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at no point in the day was the DA above +28ft, which is still less than actual ft above seal level of atco. The weather station is 4 miles away in cherryhill, which, as far as the last 20 years of my own data collection at atco, is within a few ft of the weather station/dragtimes data. he purposely posted false information, which any sane person in racing means he lied. so no logical person could conclude that he would NOT lie again on small matters again, aka "stock" or any other "omitted" modifications, or as Ill refer to them from now on in reference to the Demon crowd "stockifications". His name sounds ultra-familiar as well. Im going to dive deeper into this.

This is also the guy that has lightweight braille battery and aftermarket wheels and still claims "stock", yes?

Im just gathering a full list of "stockifications" I (+3 friends) can do to the 500 when it arrives and I/we hit atco or mir or cecil in -4500 DA with $500 of glue, to claim the record for fastest STOCK warrantied street car



I never posted in absolutes, i said the fastest I could find.

.03 difference, and 2 mph, in better DA tells us he lied about something we havent caught yet... well, to those of us that know racing anyway

Not the same guy, that’s Ron. The only factory one seater that went 9.71 in Houston and 9.78 at el Famoso in California.

You can do whatever you want with the 500, as long as all other 500 owners are in. That’s the case with the Demon community. They understand what dodge did and how they did it and are trying to duplicated. What they are doing has nothing to do with other cars, just Demons. I don’t understand why a few people get all pissed at what they are doing.
 

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Why are all you guys comparing the 2020 GT500 to a Demon ? More correct comparison would be the 2019 Hellcat Redeye with 797 HP on 91 octane and in widebody configuration it's supposed to run high 10s on street tires and mid 10s on drag radials. Demon was a purpose built street legal drag car, that isn't even in production anymore.

got sucked into the troll hole.

and its because they know the 500 is going to crush it, so it ll reverts to the demon
 

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Ah...you went from saying they’ve never been 140 to they’ve never been 140 while running 9.65.

Your hard on for the Demon is immeasurable...

you do understand a bit of tire spin at the 60 can inflate mph yes? optimal 60/et will result in lower mph's.. so again, dudes drive all over the country looking to replicate what was advertised and they all failed
 

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....or they just choose to ignore it so they don't feel they were duped by Dodge.

Hahahahahahaha!!!! Yea man. Dodge totally put it to those guys running 9.7’s. I mean jesus christ it’s not even in the same ballpark of Dodges claims.
 
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Yeah, well those conditions have come and gone multiple times and no one, even in an “all demon” event with near 100 cars has duplicated.

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Absolutely 100% WRONG.

Its amazing no numbers for the GT500 have been released. 10.8@127 is being thrown around, yet with a little twist here and there some of you are saying it’ll run a 9.9@140. Oh. And drag a demon.

Cant. Make. This. Shit. Up.
 

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you do understand a bit of tire spin at the 60 can inflate mph yes? optimal 60/et will result in lower mph's.. so again, dudes drive all over the country looking to replicate what was advertised and they all failed

Inflate? You do understand if it traps 140 it traps 140. Period. Spinning or no spinning. The. Car. Still. Hit. 140.

list all mods a person can do to remain stock please.

Tires aren’t a mod...

Pulling seats out of a demon, that can be ordered without seats, isnt a mod.

Anything that increases power is a mod. Obviously.

Is lowering tire pressure from the factory spec a mod too?




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