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not saying my guess was right by any means. if it was a little over 700bhp and rwhp is under 700 their "advertised rating" wouldn't be a lie. didn't the 14's come with 662bhp and dyno'd in the high 590's? i think a lot of us are confusing crank hp with hp to the wheels. regardless it's going to be a monster. and i totally agree it will be under rated. ford tends to do that more than any other make for some reason. haha i kinda want to say 732bhp now.

No one is confusing it because we have been rating the horsepower the same way for decades now. The understanding is that crank horsepower is the standard by which manufacturers rate and we as consumers can compare vehicles against each other based on that standardized rating. The only time whp matters more in a stock production car is when the car is making more whp than expected after parasitic loss or less whp indicating the car is overrated at the flywheel or is losing more horsepower than usual somewhere in the drivetrain. Once the cars are in consumer's hands the power ratings from that point on are rated at the wheels majority of the time.

I dont know anyone here that doesn't look at it that way. If the car makes under 700whp no one will care unless it indicates larger parasitic losses than normal. If the car is rated by Ford at 750hp then it is all but guaranteed that it will only make 6xx horsepower at the wheels, everyone knows that.
 

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The amount of extra shit baked into the s550 is staggering. It seems like every single wire is clipped to the chassis and there are an extra 3 bolts attached to EVERY component on the car. Its ridiculous.

You aren't wrong. I removed a lot of redundant stuff. Though I had tossed most of it before I got the idea to weigh it, when I did get around to it, there was 12 lbs worth of garbage clips and fasteners. There was a bold on the firewall that literally was screwed into the firewall and neither fastened or connected to anything. We joke that it was the part that was left over so they just shrugged and screwed it into the first hole they found.
 

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It won’t be manual only.


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I'm just telling you want the head of FP said in the magazine. Maybe DCT see below

Dbk confirmed no automatic. And technically a dual clutch tranny is considered a manual as well. So, that’s a little ambiguous statement by them.
 

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I had an Evo X MR with DCT. It was a fine transmission, but in the end, it was an automatic. I don't care that it wasn't legitimately and auto..it shifted itself and never gave me the crisp control that a manual gives me. I just will not buy an auto/DCT or whatever as long as a manual is offered.
 

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You aren't wrong. I removed a lot of redundant stuff. Though I had tossed most of it before I got the idea to weigh it, when I did get around to it, there was 12 lbs worth of garbage clips and fasteners. There was a bold on the firewall that literally was screwed into the firewall and neither fastened or connected to anything. We joke that it was the part that was left over so they just shrugged and screwed it into the first hole they found.

Hahaha! It’s so true.

I’m knee deep into mine at this point and the pile of bolts and wire clips that won’t be used again will be massive.

I appreciate why they did this, but you’re right.. there is a lot of redundancy that’s not needed imo.


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There was an interview in last months MotorTrend with the head of Ford's SVO/SVT or Ford Performance and besides the guy being super excited about electrification and Zero emission crap and how it integrates well into...blah,blah,blah............
He said a few things about the GT500
1. It'll be Manual only
2. It'll be Supercharged
3. It'll have "Well over 700 hp"
4. It'll arrive late 2019

Most importantly, number 1 on your list. Where the hell did you get that from? There was nothing of the sort mentioned. The Q&A was with Hermann Salenbauch, a Director (production side) at Ford Performance in the December 2018 issue of Motor Trend. The following is exactly how it was worded...

You will have GT350 and GT500 in the same showroom for the first time. What’s the thinking?
They play to different customers. GT350 is a track-focused vehicle but deploys power in a different way than a GT500. GT500 for the first time also will be very track-capable, but it’s also very straight-lined. It plays in both and gives you the highest level of horsepower. You will not spin a tire as easily in a GT350, but a GT500 will have strengths that GT350 doesn’t have.

When does the GT500 show up in the showroom?
It will be a ’20 model year, so sometime in the second half of next year. It’s an exciting machine. We have a long history on improving capability on our GT500, doing something big every year.

What will you debut with this one?
It will have more power than we ever had. We told you 700 plus, and it’s not 701 or 702; it’s plus and a little bit.

Which one should we invite to Best Driver’s Car?
There’s a little more weight on the front of a GT500 with a supercharger, so you have to deal with it. But I have excellent vehicle dynamics engineers that worked on that. It handles extremely well. It’s not just a straight-line car.

Can we look forward to a King of the Road version a year or two in?
I did the last King of the Road. It was a lot of work. We built our first 1,000 units, then another 1,000 units, and produced a price span nobody else had done at that level. We added to a car that was a slightly above $20,000 V-6 Mustang, and that KR was about $80,000. Dealers put a hefty markup on top. I’m pretty sure many sold for more than $100,000. And this was for a 2008.5 KR model.
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Loved mine. P1SC at 7.5 lbs made 550 rwhp which was an absolute blast with the factory 3.73’s. Stock everything else except for deleted cats and Magnaflow axle backs. IMHO it sounded perfect, especially with the factory side pipes.

MUCH better choices for an 80 mile daily commute (straight line with the cruise control on).
 

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Most importantly, number 1 on your list. Where the hell did you get that from? There was nothing of the sort mentioned. The Q&A was with Hermann Salenbauch, a Director (production side) at Ford Performance in the December 2018 issue of Motor Trend. The following is exactly how it was worded...

You will have GT350 and GT500 in the same showroom for the first time. What’s the thinking?
They play to different customers. GT350 is a track-focused vehicle but deploys power in a different way than a GT500. GT500 for the first time also will be very track-capable, but it’s also very straight-lined. It plays in both and gives you the highest level of horsepower. You will not spin a tire as easily in a GT350, but a GT500 will have strengths that GT350 doesn’t have.

When does the GT500 show up in the showroom?
It will be a ’20 model year, so sometime in the second half of next year. It’s an exciting machine. We have a long history on improving capability on our GT500, doing something big every year.

What will you debut with this one?
It will have more power than we ever had. We told you 700 plus, and it’s not 701 or 702; it’s plus and a little bit.

Which one should we invite to Best Driver’s Car?
There’s a little more weight on the front of a GT500 with a supercharger, so you have to deal with it. But I have excellent vehicle dynamics engineers that worked on that. It handles extremely well. It’s not just a straight-line car.

Can we look forward to a King of the Road version a year or two in?
I did the last King of the Road. It was a lot of work. We built our first 1,000 units, then another 1,000 units, and produced a price span nobody else had done at that level. We added to a car that was a slightly above $20,000 V-6 Mustang, and that KR was about $80,000. Dealers put a hefty markup on top. I’m pretty sure many sold for more than $100,000. And this was for a 2008.5 KR model.
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Lol. I read that too and was scratching my head at the earlier post.
 

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Most importantly, number 1 on your list. Where the hell did you get that from? There was nothing of the sort mentioned. The Q&A was with Hermann Salenbauch, a Director (production side) at Ford Performance in the December 2018 issue of Motor Trend. The following is exactly how it was worded...

You will have GT350 and GT500 in the same showroom for the first time. What’s the thinking?
They play to different customers. GT350 is a track-focused vehicle but deploys power in a different way than a GT500. GT500 for the first time also will be very track-capable, but it’s also very straight-lined. It plays in both and gives you the highest level of horsepower. You will not spin a tire as easily in a GT350, but a GT500 will have strengths that GT350 doesn’t have.

When does the GT500 show up in the showroom?
It will be a ’20 model year, so sometime in the second half of next year. It’s an exciting machine. We have a long history on improving capability on our GT500, doing something big every year.

What will you debut with this one?
It will have more power than we ever had. We told you 700 plus, and it’s not 701 or 702; it’s plus and a little bit.

Which one should we invite to Best Driver’s Car?
There’s a little more weight on the front of a GT500 with a supercharger, so you have to deal with it. But I have excellent vehicle dynamics engineers that worked on that. It handles extremely well. It’s not just a straight-line car.

Can we look forward to a King of the Road version a year or two in?
I did the last King of the Road. It was a lot of work. We built our first 1,000 units, then another 1,000 units, and produced a price span nobody else had done at that level. We added to a car that was a slightly above $20,000 V-6 Mustang, and that KR was about $80,000. Dealers put a hefty markup on top. I’m pretty sure many sold for more than $100,000. And this was for a 2008.5 KR model.
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Well shit call me CNN because I was spreading fake news. I reread the article (My punishment) and I added that manual only part all on my own. I apologize, thanks for clearing it up.
 

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No problem. It caught me off guard because I had read it carefully at least twice and when I saw mention of a manual transmission I was trying to figure out how the heck I missed it so I went back and read it again.
 

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