Should I negotiate my salary for this new job?

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So I have 2 job offers lined up. Both interviews went surprisingly well! It’s always nice when you have positive feedback from a company during an interview and naturally can have a conversation furthermore outside of just career progression and skills.

So I’m a little bit torn between the 2. Both of them are similar pay.

Interviewed for the 2nd one this morning. Originally I had the 2nd jobs interview scheduled for this Wednesday coming up. But because I already had an offer prior on the table waiting... I asked the recruiter last week if it was okay to interview on Monday (today) instead on Wednesday.

They were more than willing AND the interview went great. At the end, they told me that they’d reach out to the recruiter by the end of the week with a decision.

As I left... one hour later I got a call and they wanted to extend me an offer :O

I was like woah! That was quick. So I told the recruiter, “that honestly I didn’t think the decision was going to be this hard between the two companies. So I just need 24-48 hours to weigh all my options and make the right decision.”

So about 2 hours later she emailed me the offer letter and benefits package, etc.

I’m wondering, because since they knew I had another offer on the table prior to this interview... did I already “subconsciously” negotiate the salary by telling them this?

What do you guys think?
 

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I would study both job packages and compare benefits. One may be paying more than the other in bonuses, insurance, time off, etc. If both are comparable you can try to use the upcoming job as a negation tool. I would not advise this unless both companies are extending a position to you.

The positive is that you were offered the position almost immediately. The company felt the need to immediately give you an offer. This tells me you are either extremely good at what you do, or you are being offered a salary that is allowing for occasional error while bringing a higher gross income to the company.

My suggestion is simple; you never know until you ask. You can reply with a counter offer. Just make sure to read the people correctly that are making the decisions.

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I would study both job packages and compare benefits. One may be paying more than the other in bonuses, insurance, time off, etc. If both are comparable you can try to use the upcoming job as a negation tool. I would not advise this unless both companies are extending a position to you.

The positive is that you were offered the position almost immediately. The company felt the need to immediately give you an offer. This tells me you are either extremely good at what you do, or you are being offered a salary that is allowing for occasional error while bringing a higher gross income to the company.

My suggestion is simple; you never know until you ask. You can reply with a counter offer. Just make sure to read the people correctly that are making the decisions.

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Yes, both companies are extending me offers. The company I interviewed at today, I am most excited about. Lots of potential for critical and creative thinking, growth, etc. This is the company that offered me the job same day hours later. (Company I’d like to negotiate for)

However, the other company is good too. Great team, growth, similar pay, except they are offering a sign on bonus.

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You could research what the average pay and benefits are for the specific job in the area (geographic) you would be working. This could let you know if your offer is above average. Also, when negotiating employment, don't overlook benefits. Sometimes it's easier to get more paid vacation or sick days than salary.

Best of luck.
 

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If their benefits package is close to the same then I would definitely try to negotiate salary. You can also negotiate paid time off too.


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Benefits are a reflection of the companies value.

IE. if they pay your insurance, subsidize the cost greatly, offer solid retirement and PTO/Sick time, Paternity leave, etc. then they are a good company with good values (generally speaking).

I've never worked for a company where the benefits suck and they don't suck. Benefits and quality of the employer tend to go hand in hand.
 

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Negotiating salary can be risky. I have told many perspective hires that I reject their counter offer and withdraw my original offer. Once a candidate asks for a higher salary, I know that they will always be thinking that they deserve that amount and they will always be looking. From my perspective, why would I invest time and and money training someone who is likely to jump ship.
 

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Of course. It doesn't hurt to ask, but don't be outrageous with your number. I'd say like 5% is reasonable. Did they offer less than what you were expecting or more?
 

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The more you’re willing to risk, the more you can potentially gain. Pick the company you’d like to work for the most and negotiate with only them. Start a little high with your number - you can always come down, but you can hardly ever ask for more.
 

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Negotiating salary can be risky. I have told many perspective hires that I reject their counter offer and withdraw my original offer. Once a candidate asks for a higher salary, I know that they will always be thinking that they deserve that amount and they will always be looking. From my perspective, why would I invest time and and money training someone who is likely to jump ship.

I personally wouldn’t disqualify my final candidate simply because they asked for more money. It’s too hard to find talent.
 

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Negotiating salary can be risky. I have told many perspective hires that I reject their counter offer and withdraw my original offer. Once a candidate asks for a higher salary, I know that they will always be thinking that they deserve that amount and they will always be looking. From my perspective, why would I invest time and and money training someone who is likely to jump ship.

And this, ladies and gentlemen, is the "Warm Body" argument.

It doesn't matter what they look like, their talent or intelligence, or their values, as long as they have a pulse and a body temp of 98 degrees, they're hired. But god forbid they have self worth/expectations of income for the level of work performed. And if they dare express those expectations, goodbye job offer.

SMH
 

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And this, ladies and gentlemen, is the "Warm Body" argument.

It doesn't matter what they look like, their talent or intelligence, or their values, as long as they have a pulse and a body temp of 98 degrees, they're hired. But god forbid they have self worth/expectations of income for the level of work performed. And if they dare express those expectations, goodbye job offer.

SMH

Couldn’t agree more.


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Usually doesn't hurt to ask. Really depends on the type of job. If you are trying to get a higher offer coming in at Burger King chances are you will fall flat. If it is a special training required position and they are short on people if you are reasonable they may accept or meet you in the middle.

My latest job I had to take a pay cut because they would not budge on offer, but went from 30 miles from home to 1 mile from home. Then they like my work and got a substantial raise a couple months in.
 

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It has been my experience, that when a position starts out with a negotiation over money you can just bet that you will be dealing with that forever.
The only way I would be interested in negotiating with someone over money is if they were very good at conveying their argument. Be very careful how you approach it if you would really like to work for them.
 

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If the difference is the sign on bonus maybe see if they are willing to acknowledge and match that. That or you could ask for a small bump in salary.

My feelings is that if it’s a legitimate company then they will have no problem negotiating even if they are honest and say that’s the max they will pay at hire.

I’ve taken jobs in the past where I agreed to a number pending a 60 day review and after that term the agreement was met.

I’ve also had jobs where what was in writing wasn’t upheld and I left.

My most recent hire was coming back to a previous employer but at a management position and I negotiated for a higher starting salary with no problems. They wanted me over candidates they had that were willing to take 10k less a year based on my experience over the others.
 

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And this, ladies and gentlemen, is the "Warm Body" argument.

It doesn't matter what they look like, their talent or intelligence, or their values, as long as they have a pulse and a body temp of 98 degrees, they're hired. But god forbid they have self worth/expectations of income for the level of work performed. And if they dare express those expectations, goodbye job offer.

SMH

A candidates view of self is not relevant.

If I offer you a job, I know your exact worth to my organization and your level of talent. My interview process leaves zero doubt about what you know, what you can do and how your personality will effect your capabilities.

If you perceive you are worth more, either prove it (which the vast majority cannot, because they over stated their talents), or I will unleash your talents on the competition.

I find most people are humbled when you present them the reality of their talents.
 

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You screwed yourself by utilizing a recruiter, unless it is the companies recruiter seeking you directly.

In this scenario, it sounds like you already shot with an expected salary, which the recruiter has already made the employer aware. I don't see any way to go back on this and still remain in a positive light.

Next time shoot higher. Pick one, get some experience, revisit your salary and potentially make a move in a couple of years. Time to grow the resume, as your already committed.
 

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