You need to contact whipple directly. They only make a few at a time. Below is where I had my pulley coated.
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2.65 vmp vs gen 3 2.9 whipple
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Thanks for link never knew this.. Im contacting them 1st thing Monday lol
That carbinite coating works like a champ.
If anything is a myth, it's this statement. There is a laundry list of things that contribute to crank snout failure.
So just curious why did you choose the Whipple one over doing the snub idler that comes with the metco kit? You get more adjust-ability out of the whipple one?
If you look at the way the belt spins, the whipple tensioner applies the wrap to the proper side.
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Ah I see, makes since. I guess it's a good thing I ordered the whipple one then.
Sorry if I am bumping an old thread, but does anyone have a place to buy the whipple tensioner? I've been looking around after reading this thread and can't find it. My car currently has a metco one with a 2.65 vmp. I think the whipple would work better once I do a small pulley.
You need to call whipple directly.
Anybody got some boost/pulley numbers for me at elevation? Up at 4k feet and I'm either doing the 2.65 or modifying the inlet on my 2.9 to accept a GT500 TB.
Thanks in advance.
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Yours is a standard inlet?
The GT500 TB has the same bolt pattern as the Whipple crusher TB but the opening on the TB is smaller than the crusher TB. Malcolm compared the two and if I know him he has pictures of it.
I think it would be a waste to modify the inlet for the GT500 TB but not address the small bottleneck/elbow of the standard whipple inlet. Goodluck with your project though.
Yes standard inlet. And I agree. Dont have a tig welder either. Been talking to VMP and they don't have any data for what kind of air it'll move at 4k'. Not sure why whipple has such a tiny ass inlet. Same size as the damn Eaton!
I'm still not at max rpm on the whipple but seeing the decrease in amount of boost I've picked up as I pulley down, I don't think another 1000rpm is going to do much for me.
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They don't have the data for air it will move at 4K? It is a simple math formula!
The reason why the Whipple 2.3L and 2.2L have the tiny inlet is because when they first came to market in the early 2000s no one was running E85 and it was said to be impossible to hit 700rwhp SAE on Blower alone. I hit 650rwhp in 2005 on a fully built engine and most called BS. 99% of the setups out there the stock inlet could flow the CFMs needed to support it back then.
Now everyone and their brother are on E85 and very common to see blowers running in the higher blower RPM range now needing those extra CFMs. This is the Advantage the TVS has. It is not blower technology it is the fact it comes with an Inlet that significantly outflows the stock Whipple/KB inlet. So the guys running corn and 21-23psi will be better off with the TVS over a Whipple/KB with stock inlet. You add the Crusher or Mammoth and then it is a whole different game.
For best results you need to decide what blower RPM you want to run at. Then decide which blower is suited best for those RPMs and to make sure you get the best, make sure the Inlet/TB can flow the CFMs you need to feed it.
My car has had 7 different supercharger setups and 5 different inlet setups over the years. I have made a lot of mistakes and learned a lot from those mistakes.
Thanks Godstang. I need to reach back to VMP on their max rpm. I suspect its around 21500 based on their pulley/boost charts. Whipple is 18k.
From talking to a couple on here and seeing their 2.65 setup make 23-24 on a 3.1/4lb at sea level, I SHOULD be able to do that with a 2.6/4lb up here at 4k'.
Is the math on calculating CFM really linear though? My increase in boost vs. blower rpm increase has decreased as RPM goes up. If it's a linear decrease thats fine as that can be calculated, if the whipple is just choked that's another thing.
I suppose I could throw the 4lb lower on now and spin the whipple harder as I'm still a touch under max. I just feel like I'd be spinning my wheels due to how little boost I picked up in comparison to the large RPM increase last time.
From talking to a couple on here and seeing their 2.65 setup make 23-24 on a 3.1/4lb at sea level, I SHOULD be able to do that with a 2.6/4lb up here at 4k'.
Is the math on calculating CFM really linear though? My increase in boost vs. blower rpm increase has decreased as RPM goes up. If it's a linear decrease thats fine as that can be calculated, if the whipple is just choked that's another thing.
I suppose I could throw the 4lb lower on now and spin the whipple harder as I'm still a touch under max. I just feel like I'd be spinning my wheels due to how little boost I picked up in comparison to the large RPM increase last time.
Ok so no max RPM according to VMP...lol.
Said they've had guys run the smallest upper with 6lb lowers.
Said they've had guys run the smallest upper with 6lb lowers.
Not to hijack this thread, but since you have run so many combinations and seem to have good experience with the smaller blowers and RPM, what is the diff in ceilings with all 3 blowers...2.3 Whipple, 2.2 KB and 2.3 TVS? I know KB advertises the max rotor rack RPM to be 18,000 but practically everyone who still runs that blower, myself included, spins it closer to if not a hair over 20,000 RPM.
You might want to discuss the crusher upgrade with Malcolm. I thought it was like $1500 which seems high but its probably not as bad as it seems as i believe its a package. You get the inlet, you get their throttle body and you get their crusher 5" intake and maf.
18000rpm is as high as the performance map chart goes, I don't know if thats the max.
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18000rpm is as high as the performance map chart goes, I don't know if thats the max.
I've never seen KB or whipple advertise anything past 18k. Vmp just told me they dont have a max rpm.
Regarding moving air, of the smaller blowers the TVS should outperform if you get the bigger inlet and TB.
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Regarding moving air, of the smaller blowers the TVS should outperform if you get the bigger inlet and TB.
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I might look into it because you have a point, the GT500 inlet, TB, and crusher intake tube and maf is about 1300 and change.
That thing is just so freaking big and malcolm said it rubbed his hood.
Just barely on my setup. There's a small dime sized rub spot, nothing I worry about at all.
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