Vinyl; who's got it and how much?

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I have a small collection. My favorites being a first pressing Led Zeppelin IV, and Carcass's Heartwork (full dynamic range). There's something really satisfying about being a music buff and having physical copies for some reason.
 

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I have been listening to vinyl long before it was "cool" again.
I dont just buy any copy of the record I am looking for. I seek out the best sounding master. With pre 90s music, it was usually the first press. With 90s- present, it's hard to find a true AAA release these days (all analog). Most of today's releases are pretty much a CD on vinyl, all digital.
I have about 1400 records in my collection. A lot of my collection is 90s stuff and very sought after today. (Full discography of original press Marilyn Manson, NIN, Alice in Chains, Tool,etc)
Funny how a lot of people think their Beatles, LZ etc will be/are worth boat loads of money. Unless it is some rare pressing, then nope. They pressed hundreds of thousands of records in the 60s, 70s, and 80s. Most are still readily available in VG+ or better shape. How many records to you think they made in the 90s for each release? Not many.

What do you guys use for a turntable and phono preamp?

I'm using a Music Hall 5.3 fed into an Emotiva XSP-1 preamp (using its internal phono preamp). That pushes to a pair of Emotiva XPA-1 monoblocks and finally to PSB Synchrony One's. The bottom end is handled by a pair of SVS SB13 Ultras.
 

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I've got about 25...small collection I saved from the '60s. Including.....
Beatles - Let It Be
Beatles - Help!
Beatles - Yesterday And Today
Beatles - White Album
Beatles - The Beatles Again
Beatles - Abbey Road
Beatles - Sgt. Peppers Lonely Hearts Club Band
Beatles - Beatles '65
....and more

Haven't played any of them in years due to not having a decent turntable. I miss the days of vinyl. Sound was phenomenal with a good setup, and mine was.
 

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My favorite would be my Pink Floyd collection. Every studio album, original UK presses. Also have 8 different, highly regarded copies of Darkside of the Moon (UK, German, Quad, US, etc) and 6 o
I'm using a Music Hall 5.3 fed into an Emotiva XSP-1 preamp (using its internal phono preamp). That pushes to a pair of Emotiva XPA-1 monoblocks and finally to PSB Synchrony One's. The bottom end is handled by a pair of SVS SB13 Ultras.

I'm a Music Hall man myself!
I have an old school MMF-5 with the glass platter.
Lounge Audio phono preamp (LOVE this preamp)
Carver CT-27 preamp
Carver AV-505 amp
Klipsch tower speakers (forgot the model #)
 

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My favorite would be my Pink Floyd collection. Every studio album, original UK presses. Also have 8 different, highly regarded copies of Darkside of the Moon (UK, German, Quad, US, etc) and 6 o


I'm a Music Hall man myself!
I have an old school MMF-5 with the glass platter.
Lounge Audio phono preamp (LOVE this preamp)
Carver CT-27 preamp
Carver AV-505 amp
Klipsch tower speakers (forgot the model #)

Nice setup!

Is there a good source/website to track down original pressings of albums? Or, what's the best way to research?
 

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Serious question. Everyone says it sounds great but to me it sounds like an old record player. Maybe I just don't have an ear for music but does it really sound better than a CD and modern speakers? I know speakers themselves are a 1000 times better than they were in the 70's. My ear tells me CD's sound a lot better than vinyl too.
Perhaps it is a nostalgia thing? I get it the sound of a flat tappet Big Block sounds incredible but a twin turbo Coyote will eat it's lunch.
 

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Serious question. Everyone says it sounds great but to me it sounds like an old record player. Maybe I just don't have an ear for music but does it really sound better than a CD and modern speakers? I know speakers themselves are a 1000 times better than they were in the 70's. My ear tells me CD's sound a lot better than vinyl too.
Perhaps it is a nostalgia thing? I get it the sound of a flat tappet Big Block sounds incredible but a twin turbo Coyote will eat it's lunch.

On paper, CDs are far superior than records: they have a much lower noise floor (think of complete silence in-between track or no 'hiss' in quiet parts of songs) and they have a much higher dynamic range. There is no reason a record should sound better than CD, until you add in human influence.

On a scale of 0-100 for dynamic range with 0 being complete silence and 100 being the loudest possible, a CD can hit 0-100. CDs are recorded at higher levels of the range and the recording will only use 60-100 instead of the whole range. This was done to make an artist's song stand out on the radio--because it was louder and made you take notice.

On the same scale, a record can only hit 10-70--and records typically use that entire range.

So, while a CD should sound better, they **** it up and kill the sound. On 95% of the stereos out there, you won't notice and the CD will typically sound better than a record. Once you get into a true hifi system, the difference is very noticable. Perhaps this is why they still push to record CDs in the upper end of the range vs letting the song be recorded as the artist intended. Vinyl is still 'pure' so to speak and the sound is not compressed like it would be on a CD.
 

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I do not have that good of a ear being half deaf but to me vinyl just sounds better. No matter how you do it there is no way you can make a square round.
 

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Not even close to being a fan of Lionel Richie. Nothing at all against him, just his music does nothing for me.

One day, a roommate of mine threw on Lionel Richie's "Cant Slow Down" record on my other roomates turntable setup.

Dude, holy shit, it caught my ear and hell yes it sounded REALLY good... very organic! zeppelin, Pink Floyd... yeah I may need to get into records
 

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People say this is the purest form of sound/music you can get but I'm not ready to buy into it. Nostalgia has been making a resurgence but the other forms of media outweigh vinyl.
 

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CD's, from what I've researched, give you the closest rendition of what the artists were trying to accomplish while recording in the studio.
 

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People say this is the purest form of sound/music you can get but I'm not ready to buy into it. Nostalgia has been making a resurgence but the other forms of media outweigh vinyl.

If the album is recorded in analog and then transferred to vinyl--it's the purest form of music you can get because there is no conversion from digital to analog or vice versa.

CD's, from what I've researched, give you the closest rendition of what the artists were trying to accomplish while recording in the studio.

With most of today's music, it is recorded in the digital world so a CD should sound better than vinyl. Music still sounds better on vinyl (to me) due to what I stated above.
 

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If the album is recorded in analog and then transferred to vinyl--it's the purest form of music you can get because there is no conversion from digital to analog or vice versa.

I don't recall any differentiation being made with the different types of transfer but way back when people thought the compact disc bastardized music compared with the static, hissing needle. Auto isn't my thing but it reminds me when people talk about video game consoles or televisions that have comparable resolution and look great no matter what.
 
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Nice setup!

Is there a good source/website to track down original pressings of albums? Or, what's the best way to research?


I use a combination of www.discogs.com and www.stevehoffman.tv

Both are fantastic. Discogs is amazing for tracking down a specific pressing or album. I have my entire collection cataloged on there.
Steve Hoffman is a mastering engineer (and a fantastic one at that), and his site is a forum for us audiophiles. When you join (you will) the 2 sites, shoot me a PM here and I'll give you my name on those sites .
 

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CD's, from what I've researched, give you the closest rendition of what the artists were trying to accomplish while recording in the studio.


I'd have to disagree. Most artists don't want their music to sound brickwalled and compressed to shit.
Many artists still record in all analog to 1" tapes etc.
 

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I'd have to disagree. Most artists don't want their music to sound brickwalled and compressed to shit.
Many artists still record in all analog to 1" tapes etc.
I will defer to you on that since I don't know much about this area. It was just a phrase I'd seen repeated on a few different sites. The music I like best is a not too loud or crowded live concert in a small auditorium. I saw Jeff Beck at the House of Blues in Las Vegas which had maybe 1000 people and it was awesome.
 

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The pros of other media must outweigh vinyl otherwise it wouldn't have taken such a long hiatus. Even today I wouldn't say it has gotten a foothold.

Like I said, until you get a true hifi stereo, you aren't going to notice the difference. Put the two on a nice, well thought out stereo and the difference is night and day.

It's just like cars. Some people want an appliance that gets them from A to B with zero emotion, others want an engaging experience along the way. How many basic ass cars do you pass everyday vs a ferrari?

It's the same for the audio world--products are made for the masses but it doesn't mean it's better.
 

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The pros of other media must outweigh vinyl otherwise it wouldn't have taken such a long hiatus. Even today I wouldn't say it has gotten a foothold.


It's actually the contrary.
Everyone went to CD/digital for the convenience, not the sound qualities.
The convenience to cue up each song at the touch of a button, or throw it in the car for traveling. Also, easy to duplicate and copy.

Vinyl is a pain in the ass. Before playing, you need to wash it (yup) to get the record clean and free of debris/shaving etc. The stylus needs to be clean and dust free. Records should be kept in static free sleeves. The phono preamp really colors the sound, so a proper preamp is essential, which isnt cheap either.
Vinyl in general is a nuisance, but soooo worth it over digital files.

Keep in mind, much of today's vinyl is essentially a CD on vinyl. They record digitally, then cut the digital file to a slab of vinyl.
In order to experience the full sound, you need some AAA releases (recorded all analog).
 

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