Yes, I'm waiting for a new motor right now from ford. They are currently backordered.. theres myself and another gentleman that's on this thread that are waiting..
High Oil Consumption
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Damn, you still driving it or is it in the shop? What mileage did it let go or when did they determine it needed a new motor?
No, I have my car. Just have to keep an eye on my oil, and if it needs it, I go by my dealer, and they top it off. And once they have the motor in their hands, I will bring the car in for the swap. I had about 10,500 -11,000 when I realized I had a problem, but I bought it used with 9,000 miles, so whoever owned it before must've known they had a problem.. my car devours oil.. I'm talking 5+ quarts in 1200-1500 miles.
I absolutely love my car, it's a monsta. They love 6000-8000.... makes a sweet sound and just flies.. enjoy it man..I cant imagine guys that put blowers on these things. It reminds me of my 2 stroke dirtbike as a kid. When you hit the power band, you better be holding on with 2 hands or you're in trouble. Over 6000 it just takes off.
Yes, theres nothing wrong with the motor other then it burns oil.. as long as I add oil when needed, it's fine. And my dealer is awesome.. they couldn't do anything more for me.. it's just one of those things. Shit happens. And they're making it right, so it's working out so far.
Good deal. Glad your stealership is working with you to get you taken care of. They are hard to find these days. Hopefully ill get to drive it again in the next couple of days. My schedule is crazy and throw a two year old in the mix, and my time is gone, lol.
Ya, I'm very lucky.. anyway, good luck with it and check your oil regularly.. if you have a oil thirsty creature, you will know right away, and if you do, dont be in denial about it. It took a minute for it to sink in when I checked the oil, dumped a few quarts in, then checked and added more oil not long after... I really didnt understand what had just happened!!!!! So if you're dropping oil fairly quickly, say something to them.
Just got the call from my dealer. They received the new engine today. Performing the swap next week after the 4th... pretty pumped!! Hopefully all goes well.
Some thoughts here, it'll be comforting for some, troubling for others.
I bought the car with just over 8k miles on it. The dealer had obviously changed the oil and actually replaced all four tires (brand new). I drove the car HARD up to 12k before I decided to do my first change. I did the change myself. Checked the oil. I didn't monitor the oil during that period.
Right after I bought the car, I installed an oil separator on the passenger side. It fills with a few ounces ever so slowly, just like everyone else.
I drove the car HARD in some cases, for 1500 miles and decided I would cringe, close my eyes and check the oil. It's virtually the same reading as when I changed it. I'm seeing no consumption in my first 1500 mile interval. And a guy I know, he's driven HIS car NUMEROUS trips in the same time period cruising the car at 100+ for extended durations, with intermittent hard stints of acceleration. That same guy had no oil consumption in the same interval. Just some accumulation in the separator.
This makes me a bit happy, and also a bit concerned. There HAS to be a systematic, mechanical explanation as to why some cars are eating oil and others are not.
When you remove use factors (i.e. some baby the car, some flog the car), then you boil it down to either a failure or deviation in assembly or a failure or deviation in material components. I can only assume the oil and the filters are the same (or within manufacturing tolerances) of all these different owner data points.
So that means either the assembly line was different for some cars....(either the engine tech seated the rings differently, or something). Also, we've established that it's HIGHLY unlikely that any of these consumption issues are leaks. No one has reported leaks or certainly nothing to the extent as the loss rates being seen (if you were leaking quarts of oil, your whole undercarriage would be filthy, even the back of the vehicle and the rear windshield would be spotted with oil).
If it's not leaking, then it's going past the rings. No one is reporting oil in their coolant, so the only place it can be "consumed" is blow by past the rings or windage through the PCV routing. Assuming the catch cans are getting most (if not all) the suspended oil (the designs are pretty good, I can't see how atomized or suspended oil can get through the system).
If it's not blowby through the PCV system, which is being captured by everyone with a can, if it's not leaks outside the vehicle and it's not leaks into the coolant system, then it has to be blow by at the rings.
I know that the pistons and rings have a material thermal differential (which is why some people are getting piston slap). Aluminum pistons expand and contract at a different rate than the cylinder walls and block. Maybe people are eating oil at startup and cold conditions until the pistons fully warm and expand to seat the rings better.
Or maybe the rings just aren't seated properly at the factory. I will admit, I don't run the car until it's all the way warmed past 100F or so. I never get in and just go. I let it warm to 100F coolant temp (at least), so I'll start to keep track of what that generally translates to in cylinder head temp for idling.
Something alarming is at play here. Something like they had a flaw in assembly standards/conformance, or some cars got a bad batch of something in the engine rotating components.
I can only go back to the experience that older cars burn oil because of the wear and slop that develops over time with ring seating (among other things).
Perhaps some of you guys losing lots of oil could do a leak down test and see your compression (perhaps at cold start and then once warm, after driving hard, etc).
I bought the car with just over 8k miles on it. The dealer had obviously changed the oil and actually replaced all four tires (brand new). I drove the car HARD up to 12k before I decided to do my first change. I did the change myself. Checked the oil. I didn't monitor the oil during that period.
Right after I bought the car, I installed an oil separator on the passenger side. It fills with a few ounces ever so slowly, just like everyone else.
I drove the car HARD in some cases, for 1500 miles and decided I would cringe, close my eyes and check the oil. It's virtually the same reading as when I changed it. I'm seeing no consumption in my first 1500 mile interval. And a guy I know, he's driven HIS car NUMEROUS trips in the same time period cruising the car at 100+ for extended durations, with intermittent hard stints of acceleration. That same guy had no oil consumption in the same interval. Just some accumulation in the separator.
This makes me a bit happy, and also a bit concerned. There HAS to be a systematic, mechanical explanation as to why some cars are eating oil and others are not.
When you remove use factors (i.e. some baby the car, some flog the car), then you boil it down to either a failure or deviation in assembly or a failure or deviation in material components. I can only assume the oil and the filters are the same (or within manufacturing tolerances) of all these different owner data points.
So that means either the assembly line was different for some cars....(either the engine tech seated the rings differently, or something). Also, we've established that it's HIGHLY unlikely that any of these consumption issues are leaks. No one has reported leaks or certainly nothing to the extent as the loss rates being seen (if you were leaking quarts of oil, your whole undercarriage would be filthy, even the back of the vehicle and the rear windshield would be spotted with oil).
If it's not leaking, then it's going past the rings. No one is reporting oil in their coolant, so the only place it can be "consumed" is blow by past the rings or windage through the PCV routing. Assuming the catch cans are getting most (if not all) the suspended oil (the designs are pretty good, I can't see how atomized or suspended oil can get through the system).
If it's not blowby through the PCV system, which is being captured by everyone with a can, if it's not leaks outside the vehicle and it's not leaks into the coolant system, then it has to be blow by at the rings.
I know that the pistons and rings have a material thermal differential (which is why some people are getting piston slap). Aluminum pistons expand and contract at a different rate than the cylinder walls and block. Maybe people are eating oil at startup and cold conditions until the pistons fully warm and expand to seat the rings better.
Or maybe the rings just aren't seated properly at the factory. I will admit, I don't run the car until it's all the way warmed past 100F or so. I never get in and just go. I let it warm to 100F coolant temp (at least), so I'll start to keep track of what that generally translates to in cylinder head temp for idling.
Something alarming is at play here. Something like they had a flaw in assembly standards/conformance, or some cars got a bad batch of something in the engine rotating components.
I can only go back to the experience that older cars burn oil because of the wear and slop that develops over time with ring seating (among other things).
Perhaps some of you guys losing lots of oil could do a leak down test and see your compression (perhaps at cold start and then once warm, after driving hard, etc).
You forgot valve stem seals......that would be my guess??
I keep reading, not all here, that driving the car hard is all ya gotta do to keep it from burning oil. Obviously a lot of these things are babied and spend their life at car shows, but i can tell you mine is the opposite of that. I’m obviously no pro, and the car is not tracked, but if you drove it any harder on the street you’d be locked up. I live in a rural area with plenty of curvy roads, i admit to getting pulled over with regularity.
My consumption started after 6k miles with zero changes in driving habits. There were no other variables. It just started drinking more and more, after being so consistent for the first 6k miles. I can’t explain it, just an observation.
Also, i was told my new voodoo will be here in 3 weeks. I’m more than ready to be done with this.
My consumption started after 6k miles with zero changes in driving habits. There were no other variables. It just started drinking more and more, after being so consistent for the first 6k miles. I can’t explain it, just an observation.
Also, i was told my new voodoo will be here in 3 weeks. I’m more than ready to be done with this.
Did they tell you how long it would take to do the swap?.....
Same here. Just want to be done with this. Very happy with the dealer up to this point, just disappointed in the fact that this is happening to myself and so many others. It's something ford had to have known about, did the #'s, and has to be way cheaper to replace the engines that are found out about, then all the other options... cause once they STOP replacing them, there will be class actions, major recalls, then major $$ down the toilet.. but ford continues to step up and fix the known engines, and as long as they do, it will be the best resolution for all of us, and them..
No, but I didn’t ask. When i got my car back from them reading the dye test there was a CEL. So i hooked up my nGauge and pulled 4 codes. Took me twice to find it as i was in poor lighting when i looked the first time, but they simply didn’t hook up the 2 clip on pieces to the back of the manifold. Not a big deal in the scheme of things, but these are the same people that left 16 pieces of hardware out of my engine splash guard/front splitter, and gave me the car back knowing the first time it ripped off was at 145mph...and they will be putting in my new 20k engine lol...
Took my dealer about a week to complete the engine swap, but they had a complication with the new motor have a bad cam phaser....so suspect it might only take 3 days to do the job. Having said that....based on the experience with your dealer to date....might be longer. Good luck man!
I'll let you know what mine takes. Dropping it off end of the day next thursday... was out driving yesterday, I'm still madly in love with this car.. it is amazing
Here’s my story, I own a 16 track pack gt350 bought with less than 50km. At 5000km the engine light came on. Report from ford states 8.5 quartz of oil were consumed in the first 300km of the cars life. Engine was destroyed. After waiting for weeks hotline Authd a long block assembly, on replacement the clutch assembly, cats and exhaust exchanger were also replaced due to the engine failure. This whole process was a fight and took 45 days.
Fast forward to this year. I have been monitoring the vehicle for oil consumption. The car has never been tracked. Ford just completed a oil consumption test with 1.8 quartz consumed in 750km. Engine passed compression.. however...Valve covers off revealed all the plugs on one bank to have oil residue... other bank .. all clean.. serious problem from my understanding.. Waiting on hotline for answers... another engine... how many times can we do this.. wish they’d just take it back at this point..
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