Anyone else frustrated with Ford over the next GT500?

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I can cut my grass with scissors, but that doesn't make it the right tool for the job... This car is already going to have it's hands full with 700+ horsepower and not ideal suspension geometry, but then you want to chop the roof off too?



Ok, now factor in the considerable difference in chassis shape, rigidity, and roof size between an S550 and C7. That STILL doesn't make it right though, it's an oxymoron if you intentionally compromise a "track focused" car by cutting the roof off.
Some of us like a convertible. I wouldn't mind a 1000hp convertible. Bracing and suspension makes the difference for the missing roof structure.

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"I can cut my grass with scissors, but that doesn't make it the right tool for the job..."

That rather depends upon what one believes "the job" to be, eh? I think "the job" is to have something my wife can enjoy tooling around town in on a sunny day with the top down and that I can enjoy at an HPDE.
 

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Ok, will a "track focused" convertible be as good as a coupe, yes or no?

You can want it, and they can sell it, but common ****ing sense, it IS an oxymoron.
 

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Ok, will a "track focused" convertible be as good as a coupe, yes or no?

You can want it, and they can sell it, but common ****ing sense, it IS an oxymoron.

No, most of the time.

His money is green and his wife isnt looking for a race car.

Chopping off the top won’t make the car useless around a track. By your logic here, every mustang coupe sold except a stripper full option coupe on max performing summer tires is a worthless piece of shit that has no use being on the road.

As sharp and pointed as that sounds, you are coming across equally condescending and rude. I personally don’t care, have at it, it’s a free country. I wanted to throw back at you what you are seemingly dishing out because your not being fair to a well to do American consumer. It’s his money, and his/his wife’s desires. If they want to trade off ~10-15% or max rigidity and performance for a convertible, there’s no need to call their choice anything negative. High/max performing convertible is what they want.

My next daily driver might end up being a convertible as well, and I know much more than most on what the performance trade offs are. I’m not looking at buying a Nissan Rogue convertible or a Chrysler pt cruiser convertible. I’ll likely buy a cheap enough used mustang gt or cobra convertible and give 2 absolutely stinky shits that people will think it’s girly or lame.
 
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IMHO——Truth is, very few people who buy this car will ever track it. Same with just about every so called track focused car ever, I think. If something is truly track focused then it probably will not be street legal. The balancing act for manufacturers is making cars for the road that are track capable. Otherwise people make their own track cars that never see street time. It is all about the sales and trying to reach as many audiences as possible. They are casting a considerable net if they market it as a track capable car, make a convertible option, make a manual and auto, etc.


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Ok, will a "track focused" convertible be as good as a coupe, yes or no?

You can want it, and they can sell it, but common ****ing sense, it IS an oxymoron.
Dependa on what the consumer is looking for. Its never track the car. But I would drive it in the mountains with the top down. To me, it would be as good.
 

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Does track "focused" mean full on, gotta win to eat, race car? Maybe I just don't know the lingo and it's all one big misunderstanding. I just wanna have fun. Does that make it OK?
 

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Ok, will a "track focused" convertible be as good as a coupe, yes or no?

You can want it, and they can sell it, but common ****ing sense, it IS an oxymoron.
A convertible will not have the same aerodynamic factors as a coupe, but structurally they can be just as solid. Miatas and S2000s have been spanking coupes for years. The original Cobra was a convertible.

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Does track "focused" mean full on, gotta win to eat, race car? Maybe I just don't know the lingo and it's all one big misunderstanding. I just wanna have fun. Does that make it OK?

Get whatever you and your wife want and enjoy the hell out of it. Convertible, coupe, sedan, track capable, track focused, high horsepower, low horsepower, etc. who cares. Manufacturers know only a fraction of their ‘track capable’ cars will ever see a track- people who like fast good handling cars tend to go after those cars that have those types of suspensions, power, etc. for fun spirited street driving. They generally tend to be more expensive due to the attention given to special suspension parts, cooling, seating, engines and transmissions, etc.


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I'm just messing with voltwings at this point. It's something to do while we wait. I will probably continue my plans for a GR40tt and 13-6 kit with headers for my '13. Just musing over possibilities. The shared convertible would definitely be a team-player compromise for me, but just because I really like my '13.
 

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Having a really capable car that you can't reasonable take to the limit on public streets, makes folks look for legal racing opportunities. After a couple road racing sessions, I'm all about alignment specs, tires, brake fluid, and brake pads.

Hopefully the 500 will elicit that response. The problem is as the vehicle gets more collectible, that people want to beat on it less.

I got where I would rarely drive the Cobra on days with zero chance of rain.

The Camaro does not suffer that fate.
 

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Are you still really happy with it and drive it a lot? I hope so, love that thing


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Beaten daily, raced often.

1. I went through 19 gallons of gas in ~45 miles of track.
2. I've already replaced my rear tires.
3. I've run a 11.2 1/4 mile at 125 mph with nothing but a drop in filter.
4. I've pulled 1.38 lateral G.

Put it in tour mode and it's like a Cadillac.
 

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Beaten daily, raced often.

1. I went through 19 gallons of gas in ~45 miles of track.
2. I've already replaced my rear tires.
3. I've run a 11.2 1/4 mile at 125 mph with nothing but a drop in filter.
4. I've pulled 1.38 lateral G.

Put it in tour mode and it's like a Cadillac.

LOVE this!


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Beaten daily, raced often.

1. I went through 19 gallons of gas in ~45 miles of track.
2. I've already replaced my rear tires.
3. I've run a 11.2 1/4 mile at 125 mph with nothing but a drop in filter.
4. I've pulled 1.38 lateral G.

Put it in tour mode and it's like a Cadillac.
Magneride shocks are amazing.

I put my car into sport when I drive because it's still about as comfortable as a stock GT on that setting, which is more than smooth enough. I'll only go back to normal dampers if the road gets really shitty.

Are you going to do the DSC controller? I'm considering it, guys say it gives an even wider range of control. My problem is it's $1400.
 

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... Miatas and S2000s have been spanking coupes for years. The original Cobra was a convertible.

All of those cars don't weigh anything, and they all were offered with hardtops at some point.

... my thought is why not buy a GT350 or GT350R and put a Whipple on that bad boy.

That would change the characteristics of the car, and not for the better.
 

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That would change the characteristics of the car, and not for the better.[/QUOTE]

It would be a supercharged GT350, who wouldn't want that? Plus that's pretty much what the GT500 is going to be bet!
 

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Beaten daily, raced often.

1. I went through 19 gallons of gas in ~45 miles of track.
2. I've already replaced my rear tires.
3. I've run a 11.2 1/4 mile at 125 mph with nothing but a drop in filter.
4. I've pulled 1.38 lateral G.

Put it in tour mode and it's like a Cadillac.
That’s an ass load of fuel! I did 6 laps at The Nurburgring and went from a full tank to reserve light. Of course I ran into traffic because it wasn’t a track day....
 

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That’s an ass load of fuel! I did 6 laps at The Nurburgring and went from a full tank to reserve light. Of course I ran into traffic because it wasn’t a track day....

It was more like 16 gallons, but the fuel went to one side of the tank and I had pick up issues. It is 3-4 MPG running at an average speed of 90 MPH. GM's factory tune is a 10.8 Air Fuel ratio. Last post. I don't want to get a bad rep like @Kaneda .

 

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