We're not dead yet....

I teach third grade in the public school system. Can't imagine doing anything else. We keep hearing how weak and snowflake-like young ones are today. Well, here's what happened today:
So I gave a math test today. After the test a student comes up and says: Mr. #####, I don't feel good.
Me: What's wrong, angel? (Yeah. I call my girls angels. Sue me.)
Her: My head hurts and my stomach feels bad.
Me. Let me feel your head. (I touch her head and she is burning up.) I send her to the nurse and she goes home early because of her fever.

After school I correct her test and guess what? She aced it. By jingo. Burning fever and headache and she marches through and nails it.

Moral of the story: Don't give up on our youth just yet. There are some who are tougher than you might imagine...

Think there are vastly more good kids than bad but how does the saying go? The empty barrel makes the most noise.

My wife teaches 3rd grade, most of the kids are pretty damn good.

****ing A, you must have the patience temperament of a God ....

My cousin is a principal. He sees it all and yes some of the kids are great. A few make them all look bad to the media and majority of population.

my step son is 8 and in third grade.. last night he called my wife and i "niggas" and threatened to call the cops and say i was beating him... but around strangers he's a delight...

Props to you, Michael.

Russo said:

my step son is 8 and in third grade.. last night he called my wife and i "niggas" and threatened to call the cops and say i was beating him... but around strangers he's a delight...

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My friend’s kid pull the same stunt, and his Dad handed him the phone and told him to enjoy the rest of his childhood in foster homes.

_Snake_ said:

My friend’s kid pull the same stunt, and his Dad handed him the phone and told him to enjoy the rest of his childhood in foster homes.

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SOB I was thinking the same thing along with military school.

nxhappy said:

****ing A, you must have the patience temperament of a God ....

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It's an acquired skill. What I have learned is that you need to let the kids know you like them. Then you have a better chance of them doing what you want them to.

4a7191a said:

My cousin is a principal. He sees it all and yes some of the kids are great. A few make them all look bad to the media and majority of population.

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Very true.

Zemedici said:

Props to you, Michael.

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Thanks, Josh. We as a community can be successful. It takes work and patience.

My nephew is 6. Love the kid but boy is he a wimp. Very smart, but very delicate. Pretty sure his mom has done some serious psychological damage on him though.

My 2.5 year old daughter is tough as nails though. Plenty of times she's fallen hard or hit something hard or whatever and I keep thinking "oh boy, here comes a melt down." But she just gets up and says "I'm ok daddy"

My hats off to you for being a teacher. Thank you for your service, which it truly is

VegasMichael said:

I teach third grade in the public school system. Can't imagine doing anything else. We keep hearing how weak and snowflake-like young ones are today. Well, here's what happened today:
So I gave a math test today. After the test a student comes up and says: Mr. #####, I don't feel good.
Me: What's wrong, angel? (Yeah. I call my girls angels. Sue me.)
Her: My head hurts and my stomach feels bad.
Me. Let me feel your head. (I touch her head and she is burning up.) I send her to the nurse and she goes home early because of her fever.

After school I correct her test and guess what? She aced it. By jingo. Burning fever and headache and she marches through and nails it.

Moral of the story: Don't give up on our youth just yet. There are some who are tougher than you might imagine...

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As said as it sound, in reality the ones who gave up on our youth is the parents.

Kids are under a constant barrage of mind destroying programming, by the time they hit high school most are ruined, unless they have great parents.

I work at a state college & see them all. The generalizations about the various generations are just that- broad, sometimes substantiated, sometimes unsubstantiated generalizations. I've got snowflakes, I've got folks who served in the military, I've got kids who have held a job since they were 14 to help support their families and their dreams. I've got kids who are hard workers & diligent, kids looking to slide thru and the lazy slackers and/or crazy ones who should be on meds or contained in locked facilities because they're a danger to themselves or others.

My son is a great example. Worked his arse off in high school w/academics, clubs & sports and aced it. Got to top notch college, discovered beer & fun whilst living out of state and had, uh, issues. By junior year, he tightened up because he knew by then he wanted to go to med school but had, in the process of fun, damaged his GPA. After graduation, he returned home, got 2 jobs, went back to school, improved his GPA and applied to med schools for 4 years before finally getting accepted. He refused to give in & he's now in the top 20% of his med school class.

My daughter, who is equally bright & diligent in her school work but 12 years behind him in age, sadly sometimes cannot get out of her own way. It's almost like she wants to look at herself as a depressed person, when in fact, she's got everything working towards her advantage. As her parent, it's very frustrating to watch.

It's a cultural and generational thing and I firmly believe that social media plays a huge role in the current generation's thinking. The need to be 'liked' on every post, the # of 'friends' you accumulate even tho you have no idea who these people are, the viciousness of people as they hide behind the anonymity of the internet, etc.

The other aspect which has contributed to this has been the progressive mentalities imposed & indoctrinated upon these last 2 generations, especially whilst in school. The kids no longer know how to communicate one on one, and worse, they don't know how to deal w/verbal, physical, or emotional confrontation.

Since the day they entered pre-school, they've been taught to share and no fighting and you're not allowed to defend yourself. They're all winners, they're all special. All this was supposed to help build self esteem when the exact opposite has proven true. You've got a generation coming up that only understands they have no self-esteem/self worth or the other end of the spectrum where they think they are the most important person in the world, filled w/extreme hubris. I think this is going to be a terribly challenged generation.

DHG1078 said:

My nephew is 6. Love the kid but boy is he a wimp. Very smart, but very delicate. Pretty sure his mom has done some serious psychological damage on him though.

My 2.5 year old daughter is tough as nails though. Plenty of times she's fallen hard or hit something hard or whatever and I keep thinking "oh boy, here comes a melt down." But she just gets up and says "I'm ok daddy"

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Overall, I would say kids today are much whinier than even 10 years ago. Overly dramatic about things too.

TK1299 said:

My hats off to you for being a teacher. Thank you for your service, which it truly is

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Thank you for the kind words.

Parenbizvegasa said:

As said as it sound, in reality the ones who gave up on our youth is the parents.

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One thing I've noticed is many parents want to be their child's best friend instead of wearing the hat of parent/disciplinarian.

Machdup1 said:

Kids are under a constant barrage of mind destroying programming, by the time they hit high school most are ruined, unless they have great parents.

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Are we talking computer/cellphone/internet/television programming or the liberal mindset mentality?

spectreman said:

I work at a state college & see them all. The generalizations about the various generations are just that- broad, sometimes substantiated, sometimes unsubstantiated generalizations. I've got snowflakes, I've got folks who served in the military, I've got kids who have held a job since they were 14 to help support their families and their dreams. I've got kids who are hard workers & diligent, kids looking to slide thru and the lazy slackers and/or crazy ones who should be on meds or contained in locked facilities because they're a danger to themselves or others.

My son is a great example. Worked his arse off in high school w/academics, clubs & sports and aced it. Got to top notch college, discovered beer & fun whilst living out of state and had, uh, issues. By junior year, he tightened up because he knew by then he wanted to go to med school but had, in the process of fun, damaged his GPA. After graduation, he returned home, got 2 jobs, went back to school, improved his GPA and applied to med schools for 4 years before finally getting accepted. He refused to give in & he's now in the top 20% of his med school class.

My daughter, who is equally bright & diligent in her school work but 12 years behind him in age, sadly sometimes cannot get out of her own way. It's almost like she wants to look at herself as a depressed person, when in fact, she's got everything working towards her advantage. As her parent, it's very frustrating to watch.

It's a cultural and generational thing and I firmly believe that social media plays a huge role in the current generation's thinking. The need to be 'liked' on every post, the # of 'friends' you accumulate even tho you have no idea who these people are, the viciousness of people as they hide behind the anonymity of the internet, etc.

The other aspect which has contributed to this has been the progressive mentalities imposed & indoctrinated upon these last 2 generations, especially whilst in school. The kids no longer know how to communicate one on one, and worse, they don't know how to deal w/verbal, physical, or emotional confrontation.

Since the day they entered pre-school, they've been taught to share and no fighting and you're not allowed to defend yourself. They're all winners, they're all special. All this was supposed to help build self esteem when the exact opposite has proven true. You've got a generation coming up that only understands they have no self-esteem/self worth or the other end of the spectrum where they think they are the most important person in the world, filled w/extreme hubris. I think this is going to be a terribly challenged generation.

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A lot of good points here I agree with. Inre your daughter I have witnessed many of our youth playing the victimized role when they are really not a victim at all. Many seem to relish the "woe is me" mentality. Way too much time is spent on social media and way too much importance is placed upon it. About schools, I don't know what high school and colleges are like these days but there are no progressive mentalities being imposed on the elementary kids by the teachers, especially my school where the average teacher age is well over 40. We had a few young guns here but they didn't last too long. Too tough a neighborhood and too many "old school" instructors who are not advocates of the "everyone is special and a winner" mentality. Our students know when we're happy with them and definitely know when we are not.

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My friend’s kid pull the same stunt, and his Dad handed him the phone and told him to enjoy the rest of his childhood in foster homes.

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The school systems started to push the DCF zero-tolerance BS when I was in gradeschool in the early 90's. I remember going home, doing something stupid, getting my ass totally handed to me, and coming back with the "I'll call DCF" line they told us about in school.

Know what my folks did? Same thing. Handed me the phone while it was ringing, someone answered from DCF, and I totally froze. Never pulled that stunt again.

On the flip-side, legitimate cases of neglect/abuse are intolerable and I support the DCF in those cases. Sad it turned into an anti-discipline regime for younger generations though.

Back to Mike's first post... You really have to pray that reality doesn't crush those sparks of potential and hope. Do everything you can to support students like her.

The United Nations has an education guideline that basically is manipulated by corruption to impose socialized “values” into education. Collectivism and scarcity of resource completely manipulated to devoid the concept of diligent management of autonomy and self actualization.

Lots of 18-25yr olds identify as socialist leaning now. The plan is to have so many of these youths over a 20-30 year window become the majority so that a global world governance can take shape. That can’t happen with a free and prosperous USA. Look at California and large major cities. Education becomes a basket case facility, indoctrination academy, etc. Life becomes so messy and challenging that the government will have to step in to fix it via gun control, wealth distribution, job placement, social division, and so on.

I’m a red blooded freedom and responsible autonomy thinker. I’d rather see America unshackle itself from the UN agenda 21, scarcity of resource column, indoctrination (“education”), and run our own country. The UN dictates where cities and roads in America should be. It also dictates that we should be more socialist. It paints the picture that the freedoms in our bill of rights, the amendments, and constitution itself are at best old/disingenuous.

If as a community we do not follow the words of common sense such as Thomas Paine penned, or we forget the mind blowing insights into a world order as Brave New World by Aldus Hucksley, the manipulations of wealth chasing brought by “the great gatsby” (admittedly not the focal point), the totalitarianism depicted in 1984, the outright fact in Tragedy and Hope, or the general parlance of patriotism within so many historical accounts of world wars, and historic moments in time, we are at best set to be the fluffy sheep fenced in tight and destined for slaughter.

People are very asleep in this country to the long vision plan. Let the patriots of freedom die off as zealots and racists, bigots, and baboons of a far gone era. “They will outlive us because they have the education system and the kids”



We just sent a figure of a man in a car into space. The future has two paths, that of the falcon, or that of the robot. The human species will march on in either direction. One will by by self actualizaion and true freedom, the other via very limited reproduction and large scale mechotechnocratic operations, limited living, and genetic “cleansing”.

I like the idea of swimming, listening to evolving that creative beautiful spark of consciousness that we as humans are privy to within our heads.

If as a species we slowly allow the frog to boil, we will have shown to be cowards of comfort and disingenuous in our most important duty, to be our brothers keeper. The left pans poetic of helping society (often hypocrictally). Ok, so the call to left or far left is to actually realize the scheme at play and question the subscription of belief in a simple way, what is the endgame? How are these actions doing and evolving that?

All leftist ideology fails the real world test because it’s 2d chess. It’s designed by Marx, and others to appear impervious but rear pincer attacks in the form of state controlled “relief”.

Let the kids play, when they do bad, discipline and shame and rear them in totalitarianly. The goal of socialism is mass control, not mass freedom or livable life. Anyone who honestly thinks otherwise simply needs to plug the equations together. Socialist China has 4 fold the population of the USA. They don’t play by the scarcity rules that the US is subject to via the UN and other proposals. They wouldn’t have had to curb their usages until 2030 in one confrontational proposition which we declined.

The Chinese own many of our news, and media companies. They also have a decided hand in our education systems, colleges, universities, government, and lobbying firms. Who’s the bigot, the person saying they will strike term limits and seek to stay in office indefinitely until death, or the person saying less government, less taxes, more individual freedom, and more self accountability are needed. One is Xi and the other is Trump.

My friend teaches special needs kids. She gets assaulted and everything on a daily basis. **** that. Some of the stories she has told me about these kids & their parents are mind boggling. So many folks should have their kids taken away.

Never_Enough said:

My friend teaches special needs kids. She gets assaulted and everything on a daily basis. **** that. Some of the stories she has told me about these kids & their parents are mind boggling. So many folks should have their kids taken away.

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My mom is a para for special needs etc. I hear the same stories. I blame the kid's parents and them having to grow up on their own/on the streets before i blame the kids, most of the time.

I used to think some of them will turn their life around. A lot i went to school went are still in the same shit hole living off of tax payers.