Nitrous 2018 ecoboost

Tyler Quinton

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So I recently got my 2018 ecoboost mustang and didn't want to get crazy with turbo upgrades and honestly don't even want to touch the exhaust but I have a nitrous kit sitting in the garage and was thinking about throwing it on with one of the pre-tapped intake manifold spacers just to keep it cheap and easy. I can't find much info about nitrous on the 2.3 ecoboost though. My question is how much nitrous can it handle? My old 3v could handle a 120 wet shot just fine and i would also run the ecoboost on a wet shot. I figured the eb could handle that too seeing as the rings are gapped for the turbo and most likely wouldn't bind and push out the top of the piston but I wanted to see if anyone else has experimented with nitrous before I did anything


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From my experience, rods fail at 450wtq, and blocks fail at 500-550whp. So you can get away with it depending on the size of the shot. And PLEASE get a real tune. Spend the money and tune it once. The most important piece of the puzzle is the tune.
 

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What's the weak point of the block? I know MAPerformance ran their ecoboost around for a little while on a bone stock motor with 501whp which was pushing it to say the least but most people say around 450whp is as far as you want to push it but the main weak point is pistons and rods. There was an article somewhere about a guy making 650 on the stock crank with just forged pistons and rods and doesn't upr still have the stock block in their eb car that has like 780whp or something? Obviously the tune is everything but a good tune can only go so far to prevent metal from breaking


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So I recently got my 2018 ecoboost mustang and didn't want to get crazy with turbo upgrades and honestly don't even want to touch the exhaust but I have a nitrous kit sitting in the garage and was thinking about throwing it on with one of the pre-tapped intake manifold spacers just to keep it cheap and easy. I can't find much info about nitrous on the 2.3 ecoboost though. My question is how much nitrous can it handle? My old 3v could handle a 120 wet shot just fine and i would also run the ecoboost on a wet shot. I figured the eb could handle that too seeing as the rings are gapped for the turbo and most likely wouldn't bind and push out the top of the piston but I wanted to see if anyone else has experimented with nitrous before I did anything


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Sell the nitrous kit and get a tune. I recommend Livernois as they put out solid tunes.
 

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What's the weak point of the block? I know MAPerformance ran their ecoboost around for a little while on a bone stock motor with 501whp which was pushing it to say the least but most people say around 450whp is as far as you want to push it but the main weak point is pistons and rods. There was an article somewhere about a guy making 650 on the stock crank with just forged pistons and rods and doesn't upr still have the stock block in their eb car that has like 780whp or something? Obviously the tune is everything but a good tune can only go so far to prevent metal from breaking


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Blocks themselves cracking, like fox body 5.0 days.
 

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Cracking down the main webs or where at? Will a main girdle prevent that or is it just pretty much bound to happen no matter what?


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Just sorta bound to happen. You can make some decent gains with just a tune. How much power you trying to make?
 

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Just sorta bound to happen. You can make some decent gains with just a tune. How much power you trying to make?

I myself am not trying to make much power at all I just wanted a 120 shot for poking fun at the v8 cars. I was just curious about the power limits of the block after you brought that up. I also did a little research and you can make a lot of power with a billet deck plate to support the cylinders from distorting and a main girdle. Livernois makes a kit you can buy to basically bulletproof the block. It'll handle more than the stock fuel system can support. But as far as the nitrous tune goes it's pretty much just pulling out timing to prevent detonation right? Typically 1° for every 25hp gained iirc? What about the nitrous express "safe" system, it's a separate 1 gallon fuel cell that sits into the battery hold down and has its own fuel pump and a safety shutoff built in. If you were on a stock tune and sprayed something like say e85 or c16 along with the nitrous rather than more pump gas would you need to pull out any timing?


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