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What would you guys call the ACR? What would you guys call the Ford GT? What would you guys call the ZR1? All those cars, are admittedly 1 trick ponies, confessed by the people who built them. They were all designed for the sole purpose of tearing up the race track, not the drag strip. The engineers literally said that. Those cars are 100% biased in favor of race tracks, not drag strips and you know it. The Ford GT, ACR, and ZR1 are not set up for the strip. When did you ever see a ZR1 testing at a drag strip? You didn't. Every spy shot showed the ZR1 at Nurburgring. Ford GT, ACR, and the ZR1 are 1 trick ponies.

I don’t think so, the vehicles you just mentioned are very well rounded for street, strip or track.
 

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I don’t think so, the vehicles you just mentioned are very well rounded for street, strip or track.

No, they are not. None are maximized for drag strip duty, at all. They are entirely biased in favor of the race track. Can they be raced at the strip, sure, but they are at home on the race track. The engineers talked about what went into making the Ford GT, and everything out of their mouths confirmed that, indeed, it is a race car, not a drag car. Drag racing was not in their vernacular.

Everything out of Tim K.'s mouth, confirmed that the Demon was indeed, a drag car. Race track was not considered at all. Can you drive it on the race track, sure, but it belongs on a drag strip. One trick pony means, that a car was built with a singular purpose in mind. Everything that went into the car, was designed to maximize that philosophy.

Examples of well rounded cars, ZL1 (Not the 1LE), 5.0, SS (Not the 1LE), Hellcat or Scat Pack. None of those cars has a bias in favor of one over the other. I'm not going to argue anymore, I know I'm right.
 

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No, they are not. None are maximized for drag strip duty, at all. They are entirely biased in favor of the race track. Can they be raced at the strip, sure, but they are at home on the race track. The engineers talked about what went into making the Ford GT, and everything out of their mouths confirmed that, indeed, it is a race car, not a drag car. Drag racing was not in their vernacular.

Everything out of Tim K.'s mouth, confirmed that the Demon was indeed, a drag car. Race track was not considered at all. Can you drive it on the race track, sure, but it belongs on a drag strip. One trick pony means, that a car was built with a singular purpose in mind. Everything that went into the car, was designed to maximize that philosophy.

Examples of well rounded cars, ZL1 (Not the 1LE), 5.0, SS (Not the 1LE), Hellcat or Scat Pack. None of those cars has a bias in favor of one over the other. I'm not going to argue anymore, I know I'm right.

Haha you’re right for having an opinion. An example of a well rounded car in my opinion are the cars you mentioned before, period.
 

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I have to agree those are fairly well rounded cars. If they hit the strip they do throw down respectable times. Also by their very nature they have a tendency to brake, drive and accelerate very well.

A non-well rounded handling focused car might be a Miata. Granted they are still very good street cars.
 

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I’m still floored by the number of “car enthusiasts” blinded by brand loyalty. The Demon is a car that should stir your soul (pun intended) and put a smile on your face because of what it can do.
Props to Dodge for having the balls to develop a car like this.
My man!!!!
**** your brand loyalty!
 

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I’d pay good money to see you guys maneuver those aero cars around my neck of the woods. One pothole and the front splitter is ancient history. You’ll probably need race ramps to pull into your driveway apron. I bet they ride like crap too. They are track cars that can be driven on the street, plain and simple.
 

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I think the car would be a better buy if it could hit mid 9s @ 140+ in a normal 1,000-2,000' DA like most of us live in.

Man. You have some high standards for a sub 100k Dodge.

Give me a list of mass produced road legal cars that can run mid 9’s @ 140+ in 1500ft Da. **** a $100k, at ANY price point.

Then compare that list of cars to a Dodge ****ing Challenger and tell me how Dodge should have done better.
 

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Actually I was wrong, it’s 87 feet.
This has been covered in many different threads.

https://www.google.com/amp/www.auto...acr-and-chevrolet-corvette-z06-head2head/amp/

Both the ACR and the demon have very sticky rubber and the demon’s are probably stickier, but you’d have to put glue down to get something almost 1000 pounds heavier with smaller brakes to out brake the ACR.

What probably happened was those articles used normal viper numbers instead of ACR numbers. You can’t ignore physics.

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I didn’t say ACR.

Edit - One article mentioned the ACR and the other the GTS.
 

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Wow you mention an opinion that doesn't align with some folks on here and they start grinding thier frilly thong panties between thier cheeks. They get so worked up and can't believe you have a opinion different then theirs. Also starts muttering to themselves 'that idiot is wrong. I must change his opinion now!' as they rigorously start typing on the keyboard. LoL

One trick pony is just that does 1 trick. if you do multiple tricks well, you are not.

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Is it possible for a one-trick pony to have more than one trick?

Just wondering because the Demon out brakes the Viper by 4 feet from 60-0 mph.


Almost forgot. It also pulls more g’s on the skid pad than a Hellcat.



https://www.motorauthority.com/news/1110054_the-fat-dodge-demon-brakes-harder-than-a-viper-acr



One trick. Lol
I keep seeing this. Just becuase you see a smaller number from one metric does not even come close to meaning the demon out brakes a viper. Put it on a road course with tires up front that aren't drag radials and you'll see real quickly how fast that car would run out of brakes So no, the Demon does not out brake a viper.
 

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I keep seeing this. Just becuase you see a smaller number from one metric does not even come close to meaning the demon out brakes a viper. Put it on a road course with tires up front that aren't drag radials and you'll see real quickly how fast that car would run out of brakes So no, the Demon does not out brake a viper.

So now we have to take the factory tires off and replace them with inferior parts? It actually does in fact out brake a viper in factory stock trim. As they say... if my grandmother had wheels, she’d be a bicycle.
 

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All this talk of one trick ponies and no pics of any goddamn horses doing tricks.

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I keep seeing this. Just becuase you see a smaller number from one metric does not even come close to meaning the demon out brakes a viper. Put it on a road course with tires up front that aren't drag radials and you'll see real quickly how fast that car would run out of brakes So no, the Demon does not out brake a viper.

Put the Viper on the drag strip and the Demon will gap it by bus lengths.

We can do this all day. :)
 

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So now we have to take the factory tires off and replace them with inferior parts? It actually does in fact out brake a viper in factory stock trim. As they say... if my grandmother had wheels, she’d be a bicycle.
I dont think you understand the point. If one wanted to take a Demon to the road course (why?) Would you run it with the drag radials? No... Lets say you did run it with the drag radials because it brakes super duper good. Well, a 4500lb 840hp car is going to last half a lap with those brakes so this is life. Demon does NOT out brake a viper
 

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